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Has anyone tried acupuncture for qi or yin deficiency? Did it work?

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Borelis · 20/03/2019 22:22

Has anyone tried acupuncture for qi or kidney yin deficiency? Did it work for you? Did you have to keep going or was it a permanent cure?

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MitziK · 20/03/2019 22:25

Can we cut out the woo and find out what your actual symptoms are, rather than the 'explanation' that requires payment to 'solve'?

Borelis · 20/03/2019 23:02

@MitziK Sorry - no idea what you mean..?

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FlibbertyGiblets · 20/03/2019 23:14

Mitzi is asking, as I would too, what are your symptoms, can we offer advice or point you towards help that won't be an ongoing drain on your budget.

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Rumbletum2 · 20/03/2019 23:15

What the hell is qi/kidney yin deficiency?? 😂

Fazackerley · 20/03/2019 23:15

I have had acupuncture for a few things and it was very effective. No idea what yin deficiency is though.

AfterSchoolWorry · 20/03/2019 23:17

😂😂

clairethewitch70 · 20/03/2019 23:20

Whoever diagnosed that deficiency, did they offer The Cher- ching cure? Grin

I had acupuncture for my shoulder and is marvellous.

Peghi · 20/03/2019 23:25

I've had acupuncture for chronic back pain, I suspect its the placebo effect but it helped in the short term. Its not a long term fix (there's no actual evidence for it) but then there's not much evidence for qi or yin deficiency either.

squee123 · 20/03/2019 23:31

tbf there is actually quite a lot of evidence to support the use of acupuncture in some conditions e.g. sciatica including a number of randomised controlled clinical studies.

It has worked wonders for my dog's back pain and I'm not sure placebo effect is a thing in dogs...

No idea about qi or yin though I'm afraid

Peghi · 20/03/2019 23:36

NICE guidelines only recommend it for tension headaches and migraines now. Theres not sufficient evidence of its efficiency for other pain, although some trusts do offer it.

Missingstreetlife · 21/03/2019 08:01

Acupuncture and Chinese herbs are very effective. NHS use in a targeted and rather superficial way for pain relief. A proper practicioner will treat your whole person to keep you healthy, and target particular issues. You can go just once, or more usually for a course of treatment. It's said that in China you go regularly but only pay if you are well.

BlindAssassin1 · 21/03/2019 08:46

Have you actually seen a Chinese medicine doctor for a diagnosis? They will be able to prescribe you appropriate treatment, including diet. You might be advised to go for warming foods like ginger to balance you.

I've had acupuncture when I was absolutely drained. It definitely helped but was very expensive.

Peghi · 21/03/2019 17:28

Acupuncture and Chinese herbs are very effective.

Evidence? Controlled trials?

Peghi · 21/03/2019 17:30

I ask because the symptoms of "qi kidney deficiency" look fairly worrying.

ThatLibraryMiss · 21/03/2019 18:52

Acupuncture and Chinese herbs are very effective.

Evidence? Controlled trials?

What a silly you are, Peghi! Everyone knows acupuncture, like homeopathy ad reiki, doesn't work when a sceptic's involved. It dampens the vibrations. That's why clinical trials have shown no efficacy, not because it's woo, placebo and water. Honest.

Chinese herbs can be dangerous. Natural isn't always best and even if something natural has an active ingredient with minimal side effects I'd rather know what dose I'm taking in a pharmaceutical tablet than drink a tea that will vary depending on the soil it grew in, what the year was like and whether it grew on the sunny side of the hill.

OP, there is absolutely no good evidence for qi or meridians. If you really, really must waste your money having have acupuncture please, please make sure that the quack therapist uses fresh needles and wipes your skin with alcohol wipes, as there have been cases of people getting nasty infections when needles pushed skin bacteria into their flesh.

And all the people saying it worked for them: the plural of anecdote is anecdotes, not data. I believe the data.

squee123 · 21/03/2019 19:00

but there are randomised control trials showing the efficacy of acupuncture for some conditions...

Peghi · 21/03/2019 19:03

@squee123

Examples?

Veterinari · 21/03/2019 19:09

There’s actually a lot of clinical evidence for many of the herbal/plant extracts used in traditional Asian medicine. There’s even good evidence for some of the endangered animal products Sad

Just because we haven't Invented it in the west it doesn't Mean it doesn’t Work. Acupuncture in animals has mixed results in research studies but many veterinary anaesthetists are supportive of its use for chronic pain.

However like any unregulated practice, it’s open to abuse, charlatanism etc, and there are definitely dodgy practitioners out there.

squee123 · 21/03/2019 21:10

Study re tension headaches

Sciatica

Plenty of others if you Google

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