Do you think it's a benefit to be the one who organises social outings and speaks a lot in meetings etc. at work?

[Borelis]

Do you think it's a benefit to be the one who organizes social outings and speaks a lot in all meetings etc. at work? Would someone who's less "out there" be seen less favourably at work in terms of promotion etc? If you assume that intelligence, hard work etc. are the same between two people but one person is more introverted..?

Social outings are an irrelevance, surely? And talkative in meetings being good or bad depends on the value of what is being said.

Organising the Christmas party ? Totally irrelevant

Speaking out in meetings ? - Totally depends. Depends on what is said, how it is said, what the culture is, etc etc.

Sociable, typically more extroverted types can be seen as more competent so yeah maybe there’s something to it, as long as it’s not forced or seen as fake.

Well it does depend on what they say, but the OP is assuming that all other factors are the same apart from the social aspects - possibly, if it's a good indication that they are willing to take on responsibility or go the extra mile. Not a sure-fire way of showing those qualities, though and it depends on what the promotion/role actually requires.

Are you the quieter one up against someone for a role, OP?

If you never or rarely speak up at meetings, that’s a definite disadvantage.

If you sometimes speak and what you say is relevant, intelligent and useful, a sensible employer will value that.

Unfortunately there are some managers and workplace cultures who/which do favour the behaviour you describe over just getting on with your job without putting yourself “out there”.

So, it depends on the workplace culture and individual managers.

Bringing people together / being the social hour can be advantageous to how you are perceived at work. It's a tricky balance tho as you don't want to be viewed as too frivolous. You need to deliver the goods from a work perspective too.

I don’t organise anything social, ever.
But I lead training and speak a lot in meetings about things I know about and are passionate about. I shut up when I don’t have any expertise or experience or relevance and expect that others do to. I ask questions if I want to know more.

A good manager will realise who is an extrovert and who is an introvert on their team. Both have value and their skills should be nurtured in different ways.

I would split the two ,I'm most definately not the person who organises social outings (and if I'm honest don't often attend either ) but I am the person who speaks up in meetings. I speak when I genuinely have something to say or is relevant not for no reason but I am usually the first to respond and it's served me very well

I don't think quiet is bad necessarily unless it is viewed as timid where someone has interesting input but at us away from doing so...the latter I believe would affect how someone is viewed

If I'm honest everywhere I work the person who does the social stuff often isn't viewed as senior or seriously sometimes unless they are HR and it is part of their job

Thanks for all the input everyone :) I sometimes feel a lot of people just repeat what a speaker has said in a different way (no extra info at all) just so they can be seen as having contributed.

Yup I am the quieter one lol

I think being the loud one isn’t always beneficial. ‘All mouth and no action’ is certainly the way some former colleagues have been regarded, whereas those who are more thoughtful but add something practical or commercial to meetings can be received better.
I think considering your internal PR in companies is important though, so that everyone is aware how you contribute.