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any German speakers about?

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TaMereAPoilDevantPrisu · 13/03/2019 09:50

I'm reading a German article for work and while I'm getting 90% of it I'm a wee bit rusty and could do with help with a couple of sentences.

"Die Pariser Kaufhäuser des 19. Jahrhunderts zeigten Kunstwerke, wie es sich für öffentliche Orte gehörte, und sie sind bis heute dekoratives Element jeder Einkaufspassage. Im Gegenzug hat die Kunstgeschichte nicht erst am Flughafen Shopping-Charakter angenommen, sondern spätestens mit dem Einzug von Shops in ihre vornehmsten Orte." > does "ihre" refer back to airports?

"Seit die Alpengletscher und das Grönland-Eis durch den
Klimawandel schmelzen, hat sich der Tourismus in den betreffenden Regionen auf der Suche nach dem letzten Zeugnis vervielfacht. Vermögende wie Arme schieben offenkundig die Illusion vor sich
her, dass irgendwo eine einsame Insel auf sie wartet." > now theoretically this means rich and poor are putting off the illusion of their own desert island, but I don't see how that makes sense. Why would they be putting it off?

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Bananalanacake · 13/03/2019 09:56

I take it you have cut and pasted it to Google translate. That's what I do when I need help.

TaMereAPoilDevantPrisu · 13/03/2019 10:24

Yep, tried that, still doesnt make enough sense.

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ChardonnaysPrettySister · 13/03/2019 10:32

I struggle to see what “die vornehmste Orte” of an airport could be.

I think your interpretation in the second example is right, again, it doesn’t make sense in the Original.

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unweavedrainbow · 13/03/2019 10:55

No, the "ihre" refers to the "Kunstgeschichte" ie it has distinctively commercial feel, dating back to the 19th century.

The second one is that rich people are deluding themselves-here "schieben offenkundig die Illusion vor sich her" means self delusion.

I hope this helps.

TaMereAPoilDevantPrisu · 13/03/2019 10:59

oh thanks unweaved, that's helpful. I might PM you with a couple more if I run into any more trouble, if that's OK?

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unweavedrainbow · 13/03/2019 11:06

Sure Smile glad to help

bongsuhan · 13/03/2019 11:19

"does "ihre" refer back to airports?" - no, "ihre" refers to Kunst (or Kunstgeschichte). It says (i) art has taken on "shopping character" or commercial feel as unweaved said by being hung in airports and (ii) even before then, it had taken on a commercial feel where shops invaded art's most distinguished spaces - I take this to mean museum shops etc.

"Vermögende wie Arme schieben offenkundig die Illusion vor sich
her, dass irgendwo eine einsame Insel auf sie wartet." - Rich and poor are under the illusion that there is a lonely island for them somewhere, with the implied meaning that in reality places such as the regions mentioned ("die betroffenen Regionen") are actually teeming with tourists.

TaMereAPoilDevantPrisu · 13/03/2019 12:32

thanks bongsuhan. My initial reading of the second one was the same as yours but I couldn't reconcile that with the "vor sich herschieben" structure.

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