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Is this fair?

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eclipse1808 · 03/03/2019 20:59

Don’t want to drip feed-
DS is 18 months old. When he was 2 weeks old MIL pressured me into letting her have DS overnight (long story but she brought an expensive spa break, pre-booked and guilt tripped me into leaving DS after I’d told her she couldn’t have him til he was older). When he was a little older I let him go overnight every 3 weeks as he was ok there with her and I felt more like it was my choice too. Then at about 5 months, DS went through a phase where he was barely sleeping, crying often and just not settled. When I really could’ve done with a ‘night off’ she stopped the 3 weekly arrangement and claimed it was too much. Very fair, no issues. My parents live 60 miles away and own a business so don’t have much spare time but still come over fortnightly, and helped me out loads while he was going through that horrible stage.

MIL only lives 12 miles away, there’s a good bus route that takes 25 minutes to get to our house. It takes roughly the same length in the car (we drive she doesn’t). MIL has only been to our house once, when FIL (seperated) came to visit and she tagged along. We’ve lived here for 3 years.

MIL has not made any effort at all to see DS since she stopped the overnight visits. The only times she has seen him since he was 5 months old has been when I’ve driven us over for dinner on a sunday maybe five times in 13 months. Whenever DS see’s MIL he cries and runs over to me or DP. She tries to cuddle him / play with him and he just screams until she stops and lets him come back to us. She clearly feels upset when this happens. Surely though she would have known her lack of effort would reflect in this way? I can’t force my toddler to like someone who he doesn’t see.

MIL only works 3 days, whereas my partner mostly works 60 hours over 6 days and I work mornings & weekends. I’m also completing an access course at college 2 days a week. We find it very hard to find time to drive over, stay for dinner / board games etc and then drive back. It would be alot easier for MIL to visit us but she never does, so DS basically doesn’t know that she’s his grandma.

Now the problem is she has approached DP asking to ‘take him out’ this weekend. DP asked what she meant and she said she wants to get a bus to our town, take him into the city on the bus and walk round the shops with him, then bring him back on the bus. I’m not sure if IABU (not ready for AIBU forum though) in thinking I should say no. Everything about this ‘outing’ is filling me with dread. She says she wants DS to get to know her which is fair enough but I think that DS should feel comfortable during this and if she wants to spend time with him she can, at our house where he feels safe. When he doesn’t scream and get upset anymore when around her then they could have alone time / outings.

I just feel like if DS did get very upset she would just leave him and not ring me to go pick him up and lie to us about how he’s been. I’ve told DP how I feel and he understands but doesn’t want to upset his mum which I get. He also says it’s not fair to let my DM and DF take DS out if I’m not prepared to let MIL. I feel that’s different as he knows who they are and feels comfortable with them.

Is it fair to allow my DP’s to take my son out and not allow MIL? How would you tell her in a nice way that I don’t want her out alone with DS? Or am I just being PFB about this?

For context DP has an older 7YO son who MIL had every 3rd weekend, went to their house (also a bus ride away)to see him during the week and had him for weeks during the school holidays. She still makes effort to go see her first grandson so I don’t understand why she cut the contact with her second. We had a good relationship too until it became clear all the effort was on our side. Sorry for rambling

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eclipse1808 · 03/03/2019 21:00

Oh wow, thanks to anyone who stays to read the whole post

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IndigoDream · 03/03/2019 21:11

Your baby is making his feelings known. It's your job to do what's best for him. You know this. If it's a case of DS being upset, or her being upset, then he must come first. If she truly cares for him she'll go at his pace. If she doesn't pick up on his cues and rides roughshod over his wishes then he will have a pretty rubbish time.

Nothingunpleasant · 03/03/2019 21:14

Say no. Everyone who cares about DS (and DS himself if he knew!) will feel better.

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Singlenotsingle · 03/03/2019 21:27

She probably needs to make more effort to get to know him, and for him to know her. Explain to her that she needs to come and visit and spend time at your house so that he sees her in familiar surroundings. Apart from which, it's winter, the weather's not good and he can't walk all round tow. Is she strong enough to manage folding the buggy up, getting it and him on and off the bu, maybe in the rain with him screaming? It's not on, is it?

Singlenotsingle · 03/03/2019 21:28

town
and bus

eclipse1808 · 03/03/2019 21:38

She doesn’t know how to work the buggy, i’ve tried explaining lots of times before but she always ‘forgets’. She doesn’t like DS being out of the pushchair anyway so probably would just be pushing him to town, around and back. I can’t understand why she thinks going around the shops is a good idea- absolutely nothing to distract him with. I’d feel more comfortable letting her take him to soft play or something. I think my biggest problem is that she wants to take him away from us so he doesn’t keep coming over to us instead. Yes it could bond them faster if we’re not there but I’m not sure I want to take the risk of him being so upset. I really don’t know how to tell her this without her getting offended though

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Singlenotsingle · 03/03/2019 22:04

Just tell her you don't think it's a good idea. Maybe when he's a bit older and the weather's better. In the meantime she has to visit you, and she has an open invitation!

Nothingunpleasant · 04/03/2019 01:15

eclipse1808 This is what my MIL does with SIL’s children... takes them to Tesco. They were so BORED with it as toddlers that they used to cry when she’d mention the word “Tesco”.

Now they’re older she bribes them with offers of a treat for going. They have to thank her many many times for a £2.50 toy. 🙄

I think she just wants to parade them around town really.

eclipse1808 · 04/03/2019 08:17

Tried to talk to DP about this again this morning and he’s just so closed to speaking about it. He says my parents get to take him out so his mum can too end of, which is making me think he thinks his mum will kick off. Not sure what to do but I really don’t feel comfortable with this situation at all

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IndigoDream · 04/03/2019 12:59

So he'd rather upset you and his child than upset his mum? Unfortunately you either prepare for a lifetime of this or make a stand now. Your MIL may well have trained her son to do whatever she demands, but you don't need to join in. At the minimum you can stipulate that your son doesn't go with her if he's crying as they set off, and she must start with short trips (much less than an hour) or that dp accompanies them. While the toddler years are important for teaching a child about sharing and other social skills, it's also the time to start teaching your child that when anyone says "no I don't like that" it's time to stop, and that he should trust others to stop too. It sounds like mil failed to learn this. He shouldn't need to run away from her to get her to stop annoying him. She needs to slow right down and get to know him before she's trusted with him alone.

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