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Help me discover my city! (London edition)

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cubesofjelly · 26/02/2019 21:49

I’ve lived in London most of my life and DH moved here over 10 years ago. Before we had DCs our favourite type of holiday was a European city break. For a wide variety of reasons that I won’t go into (because it’s long and boring, not sensitive!), we haven’t been able to do that since we had children and it will be a while before we can.

Now I’m aware it is highly romanticised in my head, but regardless this is how our holidays felt - going down cobbled streets, exploring interesting shops, checking out lovely cafes/casual restaurants, taking in some sites, sitting in a picturesque plaza drinking coffee... that sort of thing Grin

Seeing as we can’t go off to do that in another city, it’s about time we discovered the romanticised city break version of London! I feel like I should already know what that is but as a local I’ve taken a lot of things for granted and don’t tend to leave my patch much Blush (east London, zone 2).

Some light criteria for any recommendations you may have (not trying to sound picky!):

  • I’m going on mat leave, more or less anything goes but if you think it’s not baby suitable then really helpful to know (as I can prioritise for pre birth!)
  • day time weekday things (planning to do at least some of this during our window of opportunity during the school day, DH is a SAHP)
  • both winter and summer things are welcome

Things I already have in mind:

  • fairly obvious I suppose, but the major galleries and museums; it’s been a while since we’ve been to any of these without children, and broadly speaking baby in tow is very different to Primary school aged children in tow
  • we already regularly enjoy the River bus (and shall continue to do so)

Really appreciate any tips or recommendations!

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FlibbertyGiblets · 26/02/2019 21:57

Have you had a nose around Hidden London?

Needallthesleep · 26/02/2019 22:10

Have you taken the train to Hampton Court Secret Garden? It’s the loveliest place in summer

cubesofjelly · 26/02/2019 22:14

Ooh thanks Flibberty, not come across that before.

Hampton Court! Never actually been there Needall (been in the area for work, but not actually there). On the list!

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Xiaoxiong · 26/02/2019 22:34

I know what you mean, discovering little enclaves within London is one of my favourite things. I had a friend who was an estate agent who was amazing and knew all the "villages" that had little clusters of independent shops and cafes and stuff. We also used to get buses to random places on the weekend and sit on the top deck and jump out when we saw somewhere interesting.

I like:
Lamb's Conduit
Marylebone High St
West End Lane in West Hampstead
Hampstead village
The western ends of Fulham road and Kings Road
Balham, esp south of the station
Cycling the south bank beyond Tower Bridge into Rotherhithe round to Surrey Docks Farm

28282ooooh · 26/02/2019 22:43

Primrose Hill (haven't been since DD, so that's over 10 years ago)
Marylebone High St
Golders Green I find very interesting, not quite sure if it's worth the trip all the way from East London.
Kew Gardens & Maids of Honour tea rooms (again havent been to the tea room for over 10years)

ADarkandStormyKnight · 26/02/2019 22:47

Street markets;

canal walks;

towpaths in West London - Putney and westwards. Lovely around Teddington;

South Bank especially after dark

Xiaoxiong · 26/02/2019 22:47

Obv none of these places are unknown to the people that live there! But they're not the most common tourist destinations I suppose. We have a barge and a friend used to have a narrow boat on the Grand Union canal so we explored a lot of the canals through London over the years on bikes.

Others:
Bermondsey St going south from London Bridge, and the lovely Georgian squares behind (trinity church square etc)
Percy Circus and Granville Square near Coram's Fields
East of Upper St/north of Angel, cycling to get to the canal, city road lock and cycling all the way down to Limehouse Basin

cubesofjelly · 26/02/2019 22:55

Thank you all so much, I’m creating a list on my phone of all the things to do/see!

That’s exactly it Xiao, discovering lovely ‘lesser known’ spots that are a delight to explore.

Completely forgot about Kew 28282 Blush another well known place I’ve never been to!

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Bayleyf · 26/02/2019 23:16

The John Soane museum. Fascinating and a bit mad (and not baby friendly).

Blackheath for views, an amble and good coffee shops.

Wander down the river from Hammersmith to Chiswick bridge, via lovely pubs and a fascinating church.

I love poking round the City at the weekend with no one else there. Lots of very odd little bits of history.

Epanoui · 26/02/2019 23:38

Kew Gardens is lovely! And the Maids of Honour tea rooms is just as nice as it ever was.

More recommendations from a west Londoner:

Richmond has lots of stuff to see and do. The Terrace Gardens is v pretty, walking along the river, Petersham Meadows, tiny ferry boat over the river to Twickenham and Marble Hill Park with lovely tiny stately home. Also Richmond Green with nice pubs (would recommend the White Swan for Sunday lunch or the White Horse - slightly less central). The little lanes by Richmond Green have lots of interesting and non-chain shops.

Richmond Hill is worth a wander and has lots of nice places to eat and drink and nice non-chain shops. There is an outstanding cheese shop there.

Twickenham has Orleans House Gallery near Marble Hill Park and you can walk along the river from here into central Twickenham passing a lovely pub with good food and barbecues in the summer. Confusingly, this is also called the White Swan but obv not the same as the one in Richmond. You can watch cricket matches in Marble Hill Park in the summer (also on Richmond Green).

There are nice river walks near Chiswick/Gunnersbury too, and nice pubs along the river.

Hampton Court is great and also look at Syon Park which has various things to do and is just across the river from Kew Gardens.

I really like the South Bank and if you are going on mat leave now, that's good timing as they will have tons of child-friendly free stuff at Easter and in the summer. I quite like just a wander down the river and something nice to eat from the many stalls on the way. You can walk from Waterloo to the Globe in not v long and there is lots of stuff to look at on the way and plenty of places to stop and eat or get a cup of tea. You can also walk over the bridge and go to St Paul's Cathedral on this route. If you haven't been, it is really beautiful.

Chinatown really worth a day out, IMO. Dim Sum and buying interesting things in the Chinese supermarkets is a favourite pastime of mine.

Hope some of that gives you some ideas!

SpaceCadet4000 · 27/02/2019 02:01

Do a treasure hunt walk! www.treasuretrails.co.uk/things-to-do/london

I always recommend this on London threads, but it really does give a completely different perspective on the city. DH and I did a few with friends and we always discovered a shop, cafe or bar we'd never have come across otherwise too.

We moved to the USA 18 months ago, this thread is making me miss living in London- I was there for 8 years and there was still so much to discover.

HankNPat · 27/02/2019 06:08

The Geffrye Museum in Hoxton is brilliant www.geffrye-museum.org.uk. It's undergoing a big refurb at the moment, so you'll have to put that on your 'to do' list for 2020 though! I didn't have time to explore Hoxton when I was there, but I believe it's a great area with lots of interesting shops etc.

Agree with Epanoui's post about the Richmond area and Twickenham, Marble Hill etc. The tiny ferry she refers to is the Hammerton's passenger ferry - make sure you wear very sensible footwear - in that clip the river is quite high, so the passengers were just stepping from the river bank onto the boat, but when the river is lower you need to go down some wet steps before you can get into the boat!!

HankNPat · 27/02/2019 07:14

The Chelsea Physic Garden www.chelseaphysicgarden.co.uk is gorgeous and a lovely calm, oasis in the middle of London! It does have a cafe but there are a couple of nice pubs close by. The Surprise www.thesurprisechelsea.co.uk in Christchurch Terrace and The Cooper's Arms www.coopersarms.co.uk in Flood Street. While you're in that area, there's also the National Army Museum www.nam.ac.uk in Royal Hospital Road and virtually next door to the NAM is the Royal Hospital Chelsea www.chelsea-pensioners.co.uk, where the Chelsea Pensioners live.

gerispringer · 27/02/2019 07:19

Have you booked a free visit to the Sky Garden? Fab views and you can have coffee/ cocktails/ eat there

gerispringer · 27/02/2019 07:21

Saachi Gallery
Newport Street Gallery
Wellcome Collection
Wallace Collection
The Garden Museum

chatwoo · 27/02/2019 08:08

I used to enjoy wandering around lincoln's inn fields and then across Fleet Street into Temple. Particularly at weekends!

And also Farringdon / Clerkenwell area.

HankNPat · 27/02/2019 09:20

Just thought of a few more.

The Isabella Plantation www.royalparks.org.uk/parks/richmond-park/richmond-park-attractions/isabella-plantation in Richmond Park (best to go in late April/early May).

And while you're in the Richmond/Ham area, there's Ham House www.nationaltrust.org.uk/ham-house-and-garden

Little Venice canalrivertrust.org.uk/places-to-visit/little-venice?gclid=EAIaIQobChMInMz_w8rb4AIVa7XtCh0ZpQ7qEAAYASAAEgIdcfD_BwE, just north of Paddington.

cubesofjelly · 27/02/2019 15:46

SpaceCadet that looks great! I really like the idea of a treasure trail.

Thanks Epanoui especially the West London tips, as an eastender all my life I feel like the west side is another city Grin

Lots of really fantastic suggestions, thank you all, I’m building a really good to do/see list now! So many gardens/parks and museums I’ve never heard of or been to, wow.

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Epanoui · 27/02/2019 22:04

Share eastender tips, @cubesofjelly! I was born in Bethnal Green but don't know that side of town at all so would love some recommendations of nice things to do.

cubesofjelly · 27/02/2019 23:02

I’ll try @Epanoui! Hopefully some of this is useful! A few to get started (note: I revolve around food... Grin).

A lot of people head to Brick Lane for Indian food (most restaurants are actually owned by Bangladeshi families). There are some really nice places, but actually it’s a bit of a tourist trap/attracts the crowds looking for a curry and a pint. Kind of like Chinatown - some fantastic restaurants there too, but hidden among overpriced ‘crowd favourites’ aimed at tourists. Anyway, head to Whitechapel instead. There are some really great Pakistani and other South Asian restaurants that really are delicious. Places like Lahore and Tayyabs. However they can get unbelievably busy, I haven’t been in a few years as a result but friends still love popping over there.

Columbia Road flower market is an old favourite, grew up going here on Sundays, lots of nice flowers to look at (and buy of course, if you fancy!) but also nice cafes and interesting shops along the side. Jones Dairy is popular.

I’ve seen the east end change a lot over the years so some of my old favourites are now hipster hangouts Grin but some are still really good nonetheless. Brick Lane Beigel Bake is the best place for a salt beef beigel, and you get classic service - know what you want before you go in and queue, they work fast and don’t take kindly to dawdling once they get to you! They sell lots of other lovely baked goods, like onion platzels and challah bread.

On Broadway Market there’s still an original F Cooke pie and mash shop, still owned by Cooke’s family and run traditionally. I’m not sure if there are others but that one is definitely an original, they still make all their own pies, mash and liquor and jelly their own eels.

On Bethnal Green Road, Pellicci’s is a typical east end cafe that goes way back, I think the same family has owned it over 100 years. Perfect for a fry up, but they also do ciabatta sandwiches, homemade pasta and, I personally think amazingly for an east end cafe, affogato!

I feel like I should do some non food stuff Grin

The back streets/parallel streets off of Shoreditch High Street and Hackney Road make for interesting strolling - that includes Columbia Road, but also places like Arnold Circus, plus these days places like the more popular Redchurch Street. You can sort of walk from Columbia, down to Arnold Circus, and then down to Redchurch through these parallel streets (parallel to the high street), and there’s lots of boutiques, restaurants, cafes etc. Interesting if you’ve not been before. Some really good places, these days it tends to be on the pricier side but there are still reasonable places to get a nice meal (and there’s a lot to choose from). Just realised I’ve gone back to food!

There’s a Hawksmoor church in Spitalfields if you’re a fan of architecture. On a nice day, a walk along Regents Canal can be really interesting. It runs from Limehouse in the east to the north, through places like Kentish Town. You walk past sites like old gas works (I find these structures quite fascinating), but they also tend to run through points with cafes etc. Broadway Market for example is also by the canal. There are also narrow boat tours you can go on.

A poster up thread mentioned Geoffrey Museum, which is a sort of interior design museum housed in former almshouses. Has a lovely herb garden (although as a pp mentioned, it’s under renovation until 2020). Bethnal Green also has the Childhood Museum which has been there for ages, it was acquired by the V&A some years back so it’s had quite a bit of investment in it too. Shows you all manner of toys and games over many generations, plus they do a lot of children’s activities too (but I still think it’s a fun nosy without kids!).

There are lots of walking guides you can download online. I think Limehouse Basin to Stratford is quite interesting (there’s a guide here).

I would say, also, Shoreditch is super popular. It has changed dramatically since I was a child. A lot of people love to visit, so I should probably recommend it! I don’t tend to linger on it as I’m not a fan tbh. It’s incredibly crowded, there’s a lot of drinking, smoking, drug use of a weekend (in the evenings, I mean!), however, if you’ve not been around Hoxton, Brick Lane, Spitalfields market then it is worth checking them out and seeing for yourself as there is loads going on and you can sometimes find great things in the markets. Sunday is a very popular day as everything is happening then. Some people love the buzz. But I grew up here when it was much quieter and less developed so I find it a bit overwhelming! (I sound like such a nimby) but lots of people love it, and to be fair when I was growing up it was very run down and a bit scary Grin

Maybe I should stop there? There’s loads more I’m sure, like small art galleries in and around Hoxton, and also think walking along the River Lea around Hackney Wick is a nice walk. The Olympic Park also has some remarkably nice and quiet spots, away from the stadium side and towards the Velodrome, they’ve done a lot to create wetlands for wildlife and wild meadows, it’s lovely on a sunny day and again overlooking the River Lea.

And Victoria Park is a favourite, I suppose it’s just a massive park! But it’s very pleasant, they also have a lot going on (tennis courts, cricket areas, etc), good kids play areas, and lots of ponds and some nice cafes. Every once in a while it’s dominated either by a run or some sort of weekender concert but the majority of the time it’s remarkably peaceful and very green!

Ok, now I’ll stop...

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cubesofjelly · 27/02/2019 23:06

Typical autocorrect, that would be Geffrye Museum. I know what I’m doing, iPhone...

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cubesofjelly · 27/02/2019 23:25

Ooh, and behind the Geffrye they’ve developed under the arches - cafes, bakeries. On the high street where the museum is located are a number of really good Vietnamese restaurants. There also several going further east, along Mare Street, as well as an abundance of really good Turkish food. Mangal Ocakbasi 2 has been a bit of an institution for years now and frequented by some famous types, but you’d be hard pressed not to find a decent Turkish grill along the Kingsland High Street.

If you want some relatively ‘authentic’ east end, as in hasn’t changed much over the years, go to Ridley Road Market in Dalston. It’s a standard market - fruit, veg, fish, random cheap stuff. But I like to go for a wander as it really hasn’t changed much over the years! Unfortunately it’s looking particularly run down on the buildings front (apparently the owners of property on the streets of the market which house some of the commercial premises are wanting to develop, and are deliberately leaving it to get worse, that’s according to local traders, I have no ‘official’ info!).

Oh, and we have a whole discount fashion area, like Bicester Village. They’ve named it Hackney Walk now, but it was a ‘place’ before they named it, a number of brands have had outlets here for some years (like Burberry and Aquascutum). It’s along and just off of Morning Lane, bear Hackney Central. Basically behind the huge Tesco. Again if you’re not familiar with the area, it can be a bit of a surprise to leave Tesco and then wander past a series of discount designer stores!

We also have a National Trust property, in the Homerton area/near Hackney Central, called Sutton House. It’s a Tudor manor house, has a courtyard and cafe. Another surprise for a wander up the otherwise very normal street! Around the corner is Sutton Place, a Georgian terrace which links into St John’s Churchyard, which has gardens, a nice park cafe selling decent coffee, Turkish pastries and fresh soup, with the Augustine Tower just ahead which regularly has tours up the tower. It’s a fascinating juxtaposition directly opposite the McDonalds and there is a regular crowd of homeless locals who usually dance drunk near to the tower. No judgement here, it just feels very much like the Hackney I grew up in! Not everything has changed Grin There’s also a guy who barbecues jerk chicken next to the tower, he even has his own portable sink (the attention to hygiene impresses me), smells amazing.

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cubesofjelly · 27/02/2019 23:25

I promise I’ve stopped now Blush

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Epanoui · 27/02/2019 23:38

Thanks! I already know and love Tayyabs as my brother used to live almost next door but will definitely check out your other recommendations. He now lives in Bermondsey, so will add a foodie recommendation for there that is Maltby Street market. www.maltby.st/ There is a great bakery there, too, for amazing bread and similar.

V happy with food recommendations, by the way! Pie and mash is one of my absolute comfort foods so will def try your place! And gas works are fascinating.

I think all of London has changed massively since I was a child too, including where I live. It's all so much more sanitised which is good in some ways and bad in others. I've lived in Richmond most of my life and it has changed so much in my fifty years. It's almost unrecognisable in some ways since I was a child and in other ways exactly the same!

I've been to the Bethnal Green Museum of Childhood a couple of times and thought it was wonderful.

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