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Social anxiety (13 year old ds) any tips or resources?

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Itssadsometimes · 26/01/2019 18:57

Ds and I just had a long talk. He’s in year 8 and doesn’t see friends much out of school.He is happy enough at school. He says no-one dislikes him. They just think he’s shy. He can tend to veer between saying nothing and saying too much IYSWIM. he’s slightly quirky. He’s at a high level intellectually. Slightly below average at sport (a little slow and uncoordinated) but eager to improve.

Family life is happy. He has an older brother age 16 and they are very close.When his brother is around there’s a lovely neighbourhood gang. When his brother isn’t around he’s nervous about going round alone.

He’s slightly not-neurotypical -didn’t talk till he was 3, etc. He’s very like me and I also had friendship problems. He’s way ahead of where I was in that we all get on well as a family and with our neighbours. He always feels safe under his brother’s wing.

He attends scouts (but was lonely on the summer camps), a drama group on Saturdays (which he says is good for his confidence)and a music group at school.. he tends to avoid new things unless a friend is doing it because he fears being lonely. But because his friendship group is small that’s self-fulfilling.

He told me that:
he rehearses conversations in his head and is never sure what to say to people.
He does walk home after school with two friends but doesn’t invite them in because he doesn’t want to make them waste their time.
He is an introvert and happy to be alone lots of the time.

He is kind and loyal. He’s actually very tactful when he talks about other people and can calm down any family bickering.
He doesn’t take things personally. He isn’t possessive of his friends.

We don’t need a big change, just a subtle one.

Any help appreciated.

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SeaToSki · 26/01/2019 19:08

The Trick is to think of one small step at a time to make a change towards where he wants to be. If goal number one is to invite his friends in after walking home from school, break it down into steps. He needs to think about what they like to do, play on an xbox, look at a collection of something, play football in the garden. Then practise with ds how he will invite them role play it with him. Role play if they say no, role play seeing if a different day would work, role play if they say yes. Then decide which day he will do it. Then be home to provide back up. Etc etc

Then if that works and he enjoys it, talk about what other thing he would like to try making steps towards. If it doent work or he doesnt enjoy it, discuss with him why and what he would do differently if he was going to try again. All really low pressure, almost an academic exercise with you asking why and what do you think alot, so he feels in charge

SeaToSki · 26/01/2019 19:10

ALso tell him that lots of people rehearse conversations in their heads ahead of time. Its a good skill to have, but you do have to say it out loud eventually 😊

Buntybearbess · 26/01/2019 19:24

I've found what helped me was the realisation that people are so concerned about their own lives they don't notice half the 'mistakes' that you make past a passing/joking comment.

I did the fake it till you make it thing (not a great way to deal with the root of the problem) and I'm doing a lot better now tbh.

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Itssadsometimes · 26/01/2019 19:41

Thank you x

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Itssadsometimes · 26/01/2019 20:21

Hmm,

So I just spoke with him.

He says he’s happy as he is because he has us,

Where the heck do I go with that???
I was desperate for more friends at his age.

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SlinkyDinkyDoo · 26/01/2019 20:27

No tips but he sounds lovely

Not2BBs · 26/01/2019 21:08

He sounds completely normal, perhaps more slightly self aware than most teens. I would just keep him as lovingly supported as you do now. I'm not sure what else you need to do. You are successfully getting him to clubs & he has a good sibling relationship - I'm sure he will figure the rest out for himself. If his self-esteem is good then he's most of the way there. I have a similar DS but no siblings and no extracurriculars I can get him to. I don't want him to feel there is anything wrong with him - he's exactly as i was at that age & I am happily different from the crowd now. Teenagering is such an anxious business - I'm trying not to make it worse by forcing him onto a path that isn't his.

Itssadsometimes · 26/01/2019 21:57

Thankyou.

My own mum was very ashamed of us for being “different”. She did a lot of damage. I like to think I’m completely free of such prejudices but you can’t shake it off completely.

I will talk to his dad about it. He will be able to judge with a clearer head.

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Serin · 26/01/2019 22:41

I dont think he needs help OP! He sounds perfectly happy as he is.
Be careful not to project your own unhappy childhood onto him and maybe you could think about getting some counselling if you think you still have unresolved issues regarding your relationship with your mum.

Itssadsometimes · 27/01/2019 12:49

Thanks Serin I absolutely take that on board.
Do you think counselling could help at this late stage?

Given what my upbringing was like, (especially all the shaming crap that went on) it would be naive to think my own parenting was unaffected.

Though thankfully I’ve been pretty good so far most of the time :)

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Goldmandra · 27/01/2019 12:58

Don't try to change him. It sounds like he already has enough to cope with without feeling that he's not living up to your expectations.

He's doing fine. Let him be himself.

PenguinPandas · 27/01/2019 12:58

If he's happy would leave him be.

My 12 year old is suspected ASD and not a big socialiser but he's very happy here in his own little world so I leave him to it. School have in the past tried to force socialisation and it fails, can't put a square peg in a round hole. If he becomes unhappy that's different then would say slowly and gently do more.

Itssadsometimes · 27/01/2019 13:07

Gosh thank you for this gentle advice.

My house was just one big pit of shame at this age. My mother had an imaginary other family of smiling affable sportsmen and fashionable girls that she would tell us about at the dinner table. That went on for about 8 years

I care more about him than I do about my anger towards my mum. I would be happy to get counselling to help me uncover any legacy that I’m carrying. And parent better. Having said that, I’m enormously proud to have two happy children so I haven’t done badly. My brother said “you’ve broken the cycle”.

Maybe it just needs vigilance not to slip back into the cycle.

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MinorProphet · 27/01/2019 13:38

My son (14) is a bit like this. Tbh I offer things but don't force it now. I offer to give him and friends lifts, he isn't bothered. He is also MUCH happier doing activities where there is a joint focus, not just small talk, so video games at home and table tennis in the common room at school are a godsend. And about age 13 he decided on a sport he was keen on (having tried other things valiently over the years) so he sort of socialise with that. School and home is enough. He doesn't need to be a 'popular kid' if he is happy as he is.

ittakes2 · 27/01/2019 13:47

My son with asd does very well building friendships through the playstation with a headphone on talking to friends. Therapist says its because he doesn't need to read or demonstrate social clues - its just his voice and their's. These playstation friendships spill into real life and the whole process has have increased his confidence leading to him making more friends.
I have noticed the children my son tends to see as good friends often have low eye contact themselves - some I wouldn't be surprised if they have undiagnosed asd. So I have realised these children make good friends for him as they are not noticing my son's lack of social skills in some areas and visa versa.
I also think its worth considering that your son's infant reflexes have not gone dormant - this website will explain: www.accesspotential.org/anxiety

Itssadsometimes · 27/01/2019 16:51

The moro refex thing doesn't sound like him. Does sound like me!!!

thank you, I really appreciate the sensitivity of your responses.

"valiant" is a great word for these kids.

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