Am I not bright? 3rd in my degree.

[OnTrain]

A thread kind of about a thread. More about a post in a thread! Someone slagging off Carol Vordeman because she only got a third in her degree. Saying she wasn’t bright.

I got a third, tbh I’m just glad I passed but I also thought I was bright! Do I need a reality check? Am I a thicko?!

poppiesallykatie These are the standard UK degree classifications. Some HEIs usedgrade point average or different marks but this is overwhelmingly the standard.

First-class honours (1st, 1 or I) – typically 70% or higher
Second-class honours;
Upper division (2:1, 2i or II-1) – typically 60–69%
Lower division (2:2, 2ii or II-2) – typically 50–59%
Third-class honours (3rd, 3 or III) – typically 40–49%

1.1 - a first (over 85%)
2.1 - a second (between 65 - 85%
2.2 - a third (between 55 - 65%)
Pass - (40 - 55%)

I’m pretty sure 70% and above is a first.

So you thought you had a third, and now say you have a 2:2? And you are a secondary school teacher?

Please tell us where, so we can make sure never to send our kids there.

As for the person who said 'all someone who gets a degree is proving is that they are good at getting a degree.'

Fucking 'ell, words fail me! What a nasty thing to say.

The thing is that they probably believe that shit too.

See butterfly you’re counting the same as I did

My OH got a third in his physics degree and I was shocked when he told me. It did make me wonder if he wasn't as bright as I thought he was and he admitted he tossed it off a bit while he was there and just faffed with lasers.

I couldn't afford to go to uni so I have no idea how I'd have fared - maybe I'd have come out with a third too :/

Kettle pot black treehugger

OP I am not being mean but you DO know that a lot is 2 words don’t you?

Also congrats on actually having a 2.2

Ido bob see what I did therr!

Where abouts in Wales was your degree...upper, middle or lower wales (don’t have to be specific).

I’m currently side eyeing my welsh uni degree certificate and wondering if it’s worth the paper it’s written on...

Gosh, so many people showing a distinct lack of class on this thread, and it's not the ones with a third (or surprise 2:2 😉).

Bangor banjo

I’m with Treehugger, Op what area of the country are you in so we can all sigh with relief that you don’t teach our children (unless it’s the area one of us lives in ☹️)?

Was thinking the same thing sleepy there are certainly some things a uni can’t teach

Nothing wrong with Edge Hill as a university, what an odd thing to post .

Thanks @BanditoShipman I definitely wouldn't want the OP teaching MY kids!

Thay’s not fair banjo I may not be academic but I doing very well in my training and have a lot of empathy for those students who struggle

Whatever treehugger

I would have been devastated to get a third, or anything less than a 2.1 as I knew I wanted to go on to do an MSc eventually, and for a lot of programmes, that means having at least a 2.1. If that hadn't been important to me, I might not have pushed myself as much. I got a 1st from a Scottish university, graduated in 1998. I had to work really hard for it.

I am now a lecturer on a post grad course and we accept people with 2.2s. I have observed that once they get going on the course, it is impossible to distinguish who got what at undergrad level. Some people are clearly very bright and do well, but only had 2.2s. depends where they studied, what they studied, what they have been doing in the meantime and how motivated they are.

MacarenaFerreiro and poppiesallykatie
It depends on the grading scale at her university. Example many Irish universities, a Third is 40-50%, while in the Netherlands a Third is 60-69% (or 6 - 6.9 as they grade out of 10)

Naric U.K. is the global database that provides details of qualifications, recognised institutions and grading scales. A Bachelors degree from Kenya is only equal to a UK diploma etc

Loka123
For employers and for postgrad admissions, there’s a ranking used to assess the qualification and the awarding institution, so broadly a First from your ex-polytechnic isn’t going to viewed as better than H2:1 from Cambridge

onthetrain
A degree certainly doesn’t power success, and that’s why vocational training is often just as valuable- look at the successful plumbers, electricians etc However as a teacher, I honestly think you should have a H2:1 minimum

Nothing to do with being thick.
Getting a good degree is more about application.

There were three people on my degree course who started with 3 A grade A levels ( which was almost unheard of in 1983)

One failed the first year, one got a 2:2 and the other got a third.

Not thick - a combination of an entitled attitude and a poor work ethic

I got into uni on 2 Alevels ( unconditional offer) and won my year prize for the best dissertation-( 85%)

Many would see my A-level results as a marker being thick but I worked my bloody socks off at uni and gained a 2:1.

Despite my previous experience notthequeen I gotta say I’m doing better than many of the 21yr olds with higher classifications. One of whom has quit.

MyDcAreMarvel

I thought that was an odd comment as well. They got a Gold rating in TEF and have a high student satisfaction rating and no problems that i am aware of.

brigits I don’t even have A levels, I have a btec which is an equivalent to 3 a levels. Done in college, not 6th form

Just some more ammo for the lions