Am I not bright? 3rd in my degree.

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A thread kind of about a thread. More about a post in a thread! Someone slagging off Carol Vordeman because she only got a third in her degree. Saying she wasn’t bright.

I got a third, tbh I’m just glad I passed but I also thought I was bright! Do I need a reality check? Am I a thicko?!

I don't think a degree is a marker of intelligence but of opportunity.

Interesting question. I'm on track to do well in my degree but I was saying to my partner there are so many resources available to students these days. When did you do your degree? Was it pre-internet?

A third is ok but it won't get you onto some postgrads/careers. I think if t are also raising a family or holding down a job it is fair enough.

Dunno op tbh, i got a first but even those who got a 2 2 did barely the minimum. A 3rd to me is for someone who really didnt try or where something went wrong.
Of course the university makes a difference, Carol went to Oxford i think. Which is different from say Bolton Uni

Carol is clearly intelligent, she is a member of Mensa. Who knows why she got a third, educational achievement is not a direct correlation to iq. Many very intelligent people have little to no educational achievements,

But no a third isn't general a good result unless there are extenuating circumstances that were impacting or hurdles that needed to be over come.

I don't know. You only need about 45% to get a third - and less than 10% of people at uni generally get one, so it puts you fairly down at the bottom of graduates.

You have a degree, however. Surely you must be bright enough to know it's not a great one.

It depends who you're judging yourself against. Compared to some people anything but a first and a PhD is underwhelming but any degree is better than average.

I don’t think a third is very good. I’m doing a degree at the moment and I think the bar is set way too low.

Why are you just glad you passed op?

Carol is clearly intelligent, she is a member of Mensa
Lol. I passed that test as a teenager its not a hard thing to do.

A third is really not great. What university and course was it if you don’t mind me asking?

A third in media studies is different from a third in astrophysics.

That’s what I thought maiden

I’ve always been a middle achiever, Cs across the board even when I try hard. I felt like I tried hard in my degree. I fell pregnant in my 3rd year but never really put it down as a factor as ds wasn’t born until after graduation. I’m currently half way through teacher training too and I’m getting excellect results in my observations, but my 1st assignment was only 55% 🙁

Lol. I passed that test as a teenager its not a hard thing to do

Lol, You clearly didn't, Because it's not a pass or a fail, it's a two hour supervised exam and only the top two percent are invited to join.

Why is a good classification a marker of opportunity?

I got a first in mathematics whilst working and raising my daughter.

I graduated in 2009. A humanities subject.

Now I feel thick.

Honestly keeping saying you feel thick or are a thicko is really unpleasant, particularly for someone planning to be a teacher, 😳

She got a third from Cambridge.

So she got in there, which marks her out in the top few percent of academic achievement.

She might just have had a thorough appreciation of student life 😁

Because bluntness It has given me the opportunity to start my pgce. Although I had a whole career before my degree which had a variety of colleagues with and without degrees. The vocational/ngb quals were more important.

Not at all. It means you had a life and enjoyed Uni!

I know a couple of people who got thirds. One did very little work and used university to further her social life. The other struggled a great deal with the work. She just wasn’t academic.

Why bluntness? I’ve been teaching children for 15yrs and I’m very very good at it.

I don’t really get what you’re asking? Academic achievements aren’t the sole marker of how ‘bright’ someone is. Surely you know that a third isn’t a great result, as it’s the lowest pass mark you can get? That doesn’t mean you’re ‘thick’ or ‘not bright’, it means you didn’t get a great degree classification.

Genuinely curious about this - I thought you had to have a 2:1 or a first to get onto teacher training?

I am doing a degree and would personally be very disappointed in a 3rd.

However, it has got you where you want to be so it isn't a big deal is it?

You don't understand why saying someone is thick or a thicko is unpleasant? You don't understand the modern terminology? Like additional learning needs? You prefer the term thicko? Will you refer to the children you teach as thicko if they don't achieve well?