Raging with my brexiter boomer PILs who have "never taken a penny in benefits"

[Rosepetalgeranium]

How can you have never taken a penny in benefits when you had 5 children born and educated in the UK, claimed family allowance, regularly use the "free" bus pass, have been claiming a state pension for almost two decades, she's being treated for many years for diabetes as she eats too much shit, and he has had his cataracts done and both knees replaced, mil only ever did part time work for a bit of money and fil took early retirement on a good pension.

I'm pretty sure they took more out of the system than they ever paid in, not that there's anything wrong with that. But I can't stand that they go on about others taking out of the system when they thought being born in the right generation have almost certainly taken out far far more than they ever paid in and still have ongoing medial conditions that is all paid for by the NHS.

Is anyone elses pil like this?

Most people are net beneficiaries from the state in the UK. Whether someone is a net beneficiary or net contributor does not and should not affect the validity of their political opinions.

The drastic change in the cost of living in relation to earnings is not their fault. It is a problem, but try to direct your frustration elsewhere. It will help you have a positive relationship with your in laws.

donkeylegs

Yes of course, but ime children often hold the same opinions as their parents. So, if the parents are racist more often than not the children will be too. It’s the environment they were brought up in. So it’s surprising how many ultra liberal women marry into these families.

I have colleagues (well under 50) just like this, refuse to believe that house price inflation is shafting the younger generations. They bought a house on their own with a school leavers salary - current salary today is NMW and 2 beds like they bought around £100k in this area

I'm older than them my mind just boggles! Oh and DC are some sort of evil thing... not sure who will be the human looking after her/serving her in the future!

My parents claimed Family Allowance and my mum claimed "dole" as it used to be then. Those weren't REAL benefits though...apparently, because everyone gets them.

10/grand was probably worth a lot more though Manic? My dad can be like this though h thinks everyone should work regardless of the circumstances , my cousin is a single parent to a severely autistic son (she's widowed) he can't understand why she can't work , or why only dh works we also have a severely autistic son , he's never had a disabled child of course

My stepmother says she will have worked much longer than younger (obviously 'snowflake' but that goes with saying) generations because she didn't go to university. Therefore she is entitled to more in retirement.
She worked two days a week, she retired at 50. I said she should probably have gone to university.

surferjet my IL's nasty stupidity was a joke to me & the dh before we had children. Stopped being a joke when the children were born and we had to spend more time with them. I didn't realise how much difference nice ILs would make to life with children. Too late for me, but I will be using this as a warning to my children when they come to choose partners.

Surely, there cannot be this number of people who are delusional or innumerate?

At the moment, those currently working are paying substantial contributions to pay the pensions of those who are now retired. Unfortunately, those who are currently contributing won't receive anywhere near the same level of pension in their old age.

yanbu. Sounds so familiar - mine tick every box especially forgetting MIRAS.

My aunt and uncle genuinely didn’t take much out of the system. Both worked full time all their lives .
Owned their own house.
We’re very fit and healthy...
Had no children
Then when my uncle died after a short bout of pneumonia and my aunt could no longer look after herself...it cost her £125;000 for her five years of care.

I don't think anyone will know whether they will be net contributors to the tax system or not because the final reckoning is after their death.

Everyone doesn't spend their lives taking more than they put in.
Most people worked as young adults, not all have children, and are healthy and in my sons cases, earn good wages, paying in lots.
Dh and I won't be taking more than we put in. Fair enough we have lived abroad, and so our pensions will be coming from there, and my state pension dh not eligible won't meet the 35 years worked, so a bit short. But we will bring all our income into UK and use it here, I used the NHS once when Ds was sick while visiting, and the doctor charged me a private visit and I had to pay for his prescription. (It was still cheaper than a visit and meds back in the place we lived)
The state pension isn't a benefit, I continued paying NI while living abroad.

Married mans tax allowance was the equivalent of a tax credit. Because it came out PAYE they don't think it was a benefit.

It was.

Boomers have benefited massively. I am not quite a boomer and am very aware of how fortunate I was in terms of free university education. I am doing my best to help my children but I think as a society we are letting the younger generation down massively.

There has been a huge generational transfer of wealth from young to old in recent decades.

Those currently working are paying NI contributions which are paid out in pensions to those who are now retired.

The young are net contributors to the NHS whereas the old are net recipients.

The long-term rise in house prices has led to a huge inter-generational transfer of wealth from the young to the old.

The problem is one generation are way more likely to take far more out than the future generations.

It just grates on me that they will say how hard they had it and are totally ignorant of how much harder it is now.

Try buying 4 bed in Oxford on one postmans wage, having 5 children, wife not working and retiring early these days! It's changed so much so quickly