What actually is Rebelfit?

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I've read the website and still can't really tell. I get that it's a holistic approach and looks at mental health too which sounds good. So - I'm assuming this is content delivered via the private Facebook group? What type of content though?

And you get workouts and menu plans. What's the food philosophy? Is it calorie based like WW? Or food group based like SW? Or is it high fat, low carb?

Any insight helpful. Cheers

Ooh following as I also couldn’t work it out from the website! 36 quid a month is quite pricey so would be good to know what is included.

Bump as I would like to know too

I’ve done a couple of missions. It’s a three tiered support system for anyone looking to be healthier. Depending on your current lifestyle they will slot you into one of their tiers - the first is really just for people coming out of ‘diet culture’ and getting used to food not been ‘sinful’ or something to dread or fear or punish yourself with. The middle and top tiers are for those who already have a general understanding of nutrition and who have a physical activity level of some kind.

They send you an activity schedule and an eating programme. The nutrition programme is not a diet. It is an explanation of how food combines to create higher and lower calorie meals I guess - they tier foods/meals as green, orange, red and suggest you will lose quicker eating green (less processed) and more steadily and sustainability eating orange and red, IE tastier but ultimately more calorific. You get access to their Facebook support groups to ask any questions and link up with other revels in your mission.

Any other questions just ask!

Is it aiming more towards weight loss or eating healthier?

It aims towards a healthy attitude to food, not dieting, and excercise.

Is the nutrition programme a menu plan?

From what I've read, this Liam guy essentially ridicules SW and punts his own philosophy which ironically seems to similarly group foods. I assume his groups rely less on muller lights and Quark but what do they suggest? I've a reasonable understanding of nutrition - my issue isn't a lack of education. From the group explanations, is it calorie based with a focus on cooking from scratch? Does the programme require counting calories/ points of any sort? Are treats allowed and if so, how are they limited?

they tier foods/meals as green, orange, red and suggest you will lose quicker eating green (less processed) and more steadily and sustainability eating orange and red, IE tastier but ultimately more calorific.
That sounds an awful lot like a diet...

They don’t tell you what to eat but instead give you tools for mindfulness and healthier thinking. www.facebook.com/WeAreRebelfit/posts/1481463608655290?tn=K-R

It’s not calorie counting, food grouping, ‘syns’ Etc... just teaching that basically whole unprocessed foods cooked (or not) from scratch will be more filling, nutritious and more likely to put you in caloric deficit than others. And it offers a menu and excercise plan to help you. He actively discouraged weighing yourself, counting calories etc and tries to get people out of the diet mindset and into one of a ‘healthy lifestyle’ with less focus on what you weigh and more in how you feel. It will either suit you or it won’t, but that’s the basics.

I don't work for them, but Noom does a similar green/yellow/red food group approach, with calorie counting. Caloric density is the basis. There is a lot of content in their program to identify and address your eating issues too, including boredom, emotional eating, mindfulness techniques.

It can be a bit repetitive, but it did work (slowly) for me. I have a better relationship with food now, still working on improving it, but I came from a low base!

just teaching that basically whole unprocessed foods cooked (or not) from scratch will be more filling, nutritious and more likely to put you in caloric deficit than others

So exactly the same as Slimming World.

So the main criticism by Rebel Fit of Slimming World is that they use slightly silly terminology to encourage it's members to restrict the amount of crap that they eat to levels low enough to not stop them from losing weight.

I did one mission. Meh. It's the same as everything else you already know.

Eat lots of whole foods, drink plenty of water, make healthy choices, everything in moderation and find a way to get your recommended 30 mins exercise a day.

We all know this and we all know it works. I didn't think the missions were worth £36 and didn't reinvest.

I also found it all a bit sanctimonious. Liam has a cult like following, and I get that the diet industry is a terribly toxic phenomenon but I also don't think he's selling anything new.

It is aimed at trying to remove the diet mindset and focus on intuitive eating initially, removing guilt and stress around food and understanding reasons why we eat beyond being hungry (social, emotional etc). Eating more but using more energy to create a caloric deficit, if you want to. Diets restrict food intake to levels that mean your body thinks it's starving, leading to over eating.
The exercise/ training aspect is provided via links to videos every other day.
There is a free to join, private Facebook page called diet rehab too.

If you like, Barbara. I mean, ultimately, how does anyone ever lose fat? There’s nobody selling anything different. Anything that works is all the same thing, it’s just that some people have their heads so far into a toxic mindset of ‘if I eat 15 hi-fi bars 4 curly wurlys and some scran bran I’ll be a size 4 by morning’ that they just can’t see it. Nutrition and training support isn’t really for people who already know it all.

For me this is the difference, he's right - the only way you can sustain a change is because you really want to do it.

Slimming world talk a lot about protecting your weightloss and promoting branded foods that are utter shit. They don't want you to have the tools to do it yourself because that won't keep Mags in Elnett.

His main thing though is aim for health. Not thinness or being 'lean' or eating particular things over other thing. He is mainly about promoting loving your body as a lovable thing in itself, deserving of care and nurture and not something to be battled against. If you think of it like that (and don't get hung up on points and can I eat this and how many reps do I need to do) it's a totally different philosophy to 'diets' and hardcore exercise programmes.

If you don't love yourself and you don't think you are worthy of care you are not going to be kind to your
body and treat it well. You are going to punish it. It's getting away from that mindset that the only way to be 'worthy' is to be thin. Mental health is as important as physical health.