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How many years do you think the Gatwick drone men or women should get?

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nickiredcar · 21/12/2018 19:00

Government are saying 5 years apparently, but have heard many people like James O'Brian call for far more and 20 years in prison. I think that puts it way higher than many people get for murder

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lolaflores · 22/12/2018 18:49

The thing is, they flew the drone repeatedly. There was a clear intent to cause disruption, not just a few hours inconvenience.
Now, o don't know how the intent is proven but it seems as though there was a streak of malice.
And the drone was more than a little yoke you buy in a toy shop. How did they get their hands on that?
Perhaps this pair .oh it face other charges that may be terrorist related, even if they were activists. Their actions appeared of a terrorist nature.

DasPepe · 22/12/2018 19:02

I think they should be made to apologize in person to every single person who missed their flight (out and into Gatwick)
Each person should get at least 20 min tom explain how this has affected them plus then 10 minutes for saying sorry

That’s 175, 000 hours which is 7,292 days which is 19 years. But obv people can opt out.
And that’s 19 years at 24 h per day. I guess sleeping and eating should be included

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nickiredcar · 22/12/2018 19:30

I agree they've done the authorities a favour to highlight their weakness!

I personally think we should of locked up the bankers like Iceland did, but instead they've probably got obe's

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WineAndTiramisu · 22/12/2018 21:04

Bill them for the costs incurred. No need for prison time when you owe millions

Terfing · 22/12/2018 21:12

They should be made to work in frontline customer service for life. I feel awful for the staff involved in this.

LadyPasserine · 22/12/2018 21:22

Their crime must have cost millions to the economy.

I disagree. There is only so much money in the economy at any one point in time. People are still working and business is still running although the nature of the activity is displaced. The economy did not grow or shrink as a result of this activity.

Major human activity such as a war - and this is not such an activity - has the eventual effect of growth in the economy through infrastructure funding but that is inevitable when starting from a low base.

This activity certainly resulted in incalculable environmental costs and human health costs, but not immediate traceable economic losses.

Cranky17 · 22/12/2018 21:35

But in this country, it often seems that crime against property, or where people have lost money (such as burglary) end up with the perpetrators receiving a higher sentence than for a crime against another person.
Sadly we’ve not moved on from the sentence given to jill Sawards atttacker who was given a longer sentence for the Burglary he committed rather then rape he commited

mycatplotsdeath · 22/12/2018 23:45

But no drones have been sighted since the arrests 🤔

Mymycherrypie · 22/12/2018 23:50

Someone on LBC was saying that they broke a few laws, so while the term for one particular crime is 5 years, all the others will add to it.

PersonaNonGarter · 22/12/2018 23:51

This thread is ridiculous!

5 years at the tax payers expense is plenty! FFS. And much of the damage to the convicted person is done within the first 12 months - isolated from career and unable to work, etc. What is to be gained between years 3-7 for anyone? Zero.

DerekTheWonderdog · 23/12/2018 00:09

Although I feel sorry for the people that had their travel plans disrupted/cancelled, there is a wider picture and if we don't change the way we view flying as a form of cheap transport then the impact will be devastating. In 70 years our grandchildren will ask why we didn't do anything. Planes will be obsolete at some point - unless the world ends first.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/its-time-to-wake-up-to-the-devastating-impact-flying-has-on-the-environment-70953

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-46428260/sir-david-attenborough-time-is-running-out

Patroclus · 23/12/2018 00:16

The things are bloody mad, can you imagine what the IRA would have done with them?

mycatplotsdeath · 23/12/2018 17:12

No longer suspects and have been released without charge.

safariboot · 23/12/2018 18:21

Whatever the relevant laws say is the appropriate sentence.
I believe in this funny thing called "Rule of Law" not arbitrary punishments dictated by angry members of public.

This.

Though I would expect anyone convicted of this drone incident will get close to the maximum sentence possible. Then again, if they make an early guilty plea and then get probation, they could easily spend under 2 years in jail.

It's possible the police and CPS will look for other charges they can bring.

Considering how persistent the drone flying was and how the police still haven't found anyone to charge, I don't think it was somebody just mucking around. My lead hypothesis is it was part of an attempt at extortion - some gang will have contacted Gatwick and said "Give us X million pounds or we'll shut your airport down", and when Gatwick refused the gang had a member do just that.

Hen2018 · 23/12/2018 18:30

Good job we don’t have mob rule and we do have sentencing guidelines - particularly as they’ve been released without charge...

JinglingHellsbells · 23/12/2018 18:37

They are now saying on the BBC homepage news, that there may not have been any drones at all. Go figure.

Which is worse- idiots flying them or police/ airport staff imagining them?

JinglingHellsbells · 23/12/2018 18:38

"Their release came as Sussex Police said they were relying on eye witnesses and there may have been no "genuine drone activity in the first place".

Det Ch Supt Jason Tingley said no footage of a drone had been obtained.

He said there was "always a possibility" the reported sightings of drones were mistaken.

Reported on BBC News online

italiancortado · 23/12/2018 18:46

They went on to say they had 67 callas from public and airport staff and are working to see if they are confirmed. It's unlikely all 67 calls were hoax though, isn't it?

YoloTF · 23/12/2018 18:53

But what if the first one wasn't spotted and went into a plane engine taking off. It's all good and well saying no one was hurt, but worst case scenario it could have killed many. Why should they only get a couple of years for something so so dangerous that could have risked lives.

HollowTalk · 23/12/2018 18:57

I think the length of time it went on for should mean that the sentence should be higher. They could watch the news and see the disruption and they carried on again and again. If they'd done it for five minutes, seen the uproar and stopped, it would be different.

WhatsUpHun · 23/12/2018 19:10

nobody has died, its been a wake up call really unless someone was going for life saving treatment.... and now isnt where they are supposed to be

JinglingHellsbells · 23/12/2018 19:12

I think it's been a hoax.

They had police marksmen 'looking at it ' through binoculars and they couldn't see any drones or the make of them.

The limit for drones near airspace is actually very close - I km.

People could easily report 'legal' drones that were not meant to do harm.

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