Please tell me your toddler did this when they started to speak?!

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Wake up at bastarding 4am EVERY BLOODY MORNING for weeks .......just to get some chatting practice in?!

Tried everything textbook for breaking early morning wake ups and NOTHINGS FUCKING WORKING!!!!!!

please give me some positive stories

Oh yes I remember it well! Nothing worked for me I'm afraid, except going to bed earlier myself.

Positive stories? When they are teenagers they never wake early. In fact you will need a stick of dynamite to shift them from their beds before 9am!

Agree with the above poster who said that once they become teenagers,you will not be able to shift them from their pit bed before midday! On a slightly different note,my DD and I have a laugh from time to time about my DGD's (now 12,going on 25) mispronunciationswhen she first started talking. A couple of our favourites are 'agoo' (thank you),'isees' (sweeties) and 'dat un' (that one).

Yep, and mine never stopped since. He's now 3 and still talks almost continually in his high squeaky voice like a little amphetamine addicted chipmunk.

I can't do this much more though I'm about to break

Unfortunately I think some are just early risers. Both my sons are. 6am max. How old is your Ds? Have you tried a groclock? We had some success with ours, especially with the ridiculous 3am wakings.

Is this what this 4am waking up is all about now! I was wondering what on earth he was now waking at 4am. Hes just revently started becoming chatty

He'd not understand a gro clock yet sadly

How old is he?
Do you have things like blackout blinds etc?
Does he still have s daytime nap? Or conversely, has he just dropped a daytime nap? (Mine always slept far worse if they were overtired)

He's 2.3 months.....sleeps 2 hours during day although this has been reduced in last week or so due to his naps being shortened by other kids at nursery

Have you tried cutting the daytime nap down, or bringing it forward (not always easy I know). If not, that might be worth a try to make him make up the sleep in the morning. Does he self settle? What does he do if you just ignore him at 4 am? One thing I would suggest is not to give him milk at that time if he wakes (if you do, it doesn't say in the op), as we found it seems to set a routine of waking to be fed.

When you say you've tried all the textbook things, what things have you done? I have every sympathy, our dc have never slept well, Ds3 still wakes some nights, and Ds6 wakes early regardless of how late he goes to bed, so just gets really grouchy and miserable because he's overtired.

Am I missing something? Do people actually get up for the day at 4am because their toddler was speaking to their toys?

Of course every child does this when they find their voice but not a chance in hell im waking up at 4am! I left mine to sit and play until it was time to get up.

Mine would chat for 15 mins or so then start shouting for me and/or crying. I wouldn’t get up for happily playing obviously.

Uhyeah to be fair though, if you're a light sleeper and you get woken by a toddler jibber jabbering away then it's incredibly hard to get back to sleep- so you try things to get them back off so you can get back to sleep. Or if you have an 'adventurer' who cannot possibly be left unattended for 2 hours until the rest of the family gets up. I have insomnia so once I'm awake at 4am, I'm awake for the day.

Things I've tried
Changing sleep to earlier in day
Shortening day nap
Earlier/later to bed
Heater on during night
White noise
Ignoring
No milk given if early wake
Leave him for at least hour and a half when starts to get upset as being ignored

Yeah man chatting over here, chatting over there

No point trying anything at all. You will not win

Agree with UhYeah - granted, my DS is not really an early waker (7am usually) but back when he'd wake at 6:30am or so we'd just leave him to it. Even now he wakes at 7am and does his little renditions of his favourite songs and will happily talk to himself for ages! If they're safe in a cot I don't see why you'd bother getting up for them unless they're upset?

Turn the baby monitor off, if you still use one, and just relax. I find my DS would chat for a while then actually drop back off for a bit too if I left him to it. Appreciate all kids are different though.

Yep. Nothing that a bit of time didn't solve (helpfully). It took months to pass that phase though. And I'm sure he'll start it again soon!

At one point we were actually getting up at 3am and getting on with the day. He was absolutely wide awake, one us may as well have got sleep and the other looked after him and done housework!

It gets better when they start school.

Secondary school.

UhYeahISureHopeItDoes mine has woken up crying (screaming, tears running down their face) every single day of their three years, every single wake up (unless on me). If he was happily chatting with is toys or singing, I'd leave him to it.

We're going through this now. Except it's 5am instead of 4am. Each morning there are not just new words but whole new sentences. It's quite extraordinary, despite being a pain in the arse. He counted to 10 this morning. He's never ever done that before. Toddlers are so weird.

My son is going through the exact same thing right now, we've tried absolutely everything yet he still wakes up at 4am every morning. I didn't consider it could be to do with talking but it does coincide with an explosion of new words.

I'm currently pregnant and working FT so am absolutely shattered and struggling with the lack of sleep.

No advice OP, like you we have tried and failed at everything. Just know you're not alone.

Thanks for your replies.
Put him to bed earlier the last few nights which has made a huge difference

6.30-6 instead of 7-4ish.....

Let's see what tonight brings. It's a total mindfuck

I do not go into him if he wakes early but we are next door to him so very difficult to continue sleeping through his stage show. I've even got my earplugs in !