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Friend asked to come for xmas dinner?

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Positivefreedom · 17/12/2018 15:47

Friend asked to come for Christmas day dinner with her 2 x children yesterday.

Friend is currently trying to separate from her DA partner. He has decided he will spend Xmas at their home instead of at his parents (git). Her children hate him.

Background (sorry its long):
Both of us had DA relationships. She is happy hosting on Xmas day, been to her's 3 times (before and after separating from the ex, she invited him around too that first year) when the children were little at her invite (she would invite us around Oct/Nov time). I don't know if she knows how much that meant to me the xmas after separating from my ex. She is just very sociable, believes in having people around etc.

However, I am not a natural hostess but always do my best to make sure people have food/drink etc, but socially I am not comfortable (I love the idea of a dinner party, would completely freak me out to do it in real life...).

She does push boundaries. But I have pushed back in the past and she has apologised and we have remained friends. On one occasion she suggested she come along on a camping trip I had planned, and ended up taking over, so I ended up v stressfully messaging her and saying how sorry I was and it wasn't working for us. There has been times of being treated as free childcare which I ended up snapping at her about (I hate confrontation so tend to simmer, I know, its not good), so that got an apology and stopped.

I have on a rare occasion had them round to lunch. She is super competent in the kitchen and organised. And works like a trojan. I however am very distractable (cannot hold a conversation and even make a cup of tea...I won't tell you how long some boiled eggs took to get cooked one of the rare times I hosted). The whole time I was getting lunch, she was offering to help regularly, I left the room for a minute, came back to find she had gone in a drawer and got a pan lid to put on my pan, then did the washing up for me (I am laid back/lazy and tend to leave when guests are around, it was done more in frustrated manner than being helpful? She knows I leave it). She has also made comments about the tidiness of the house before, we have a messy house. I don't want to think about a big clean before xmas when I have presents to wrap and deliver and cards to do still, another trip out to the city to take my sisters presents, and the other million and one things to do, I feel incredibly stressed just thinking about it.

I also hate to think how long it would take me to do a big roast dinner with her there twitching to get the job done (and she would get it done faster and better than me, she often says she is a good cook).

I've done my xmas food shop (got a quorn roast). What we have is simple and we are also vegetarian and they eat meat...I was going to do a completely meat free xmas this year, usually get sausages for younger child but she's choosing veggie stuff to eat now so I was ready to go full veggie. I would feel the need to cater for her and her children and provide meat. No I don't have too, however I will provide meat for friends when they come for lunch or if I do a bday party...I feel its part of being considerate to those who don't share our choice. However a turkey on the table or sausages, its just not welcome at xmas now.

I worry about spending more money, have already lifted my CC limit and maxed it out again. I would feel the need to buy gifts/drinks/meat etc. I know she would bring stuff, she is generous, but I would feel the need to do extra stuff too.

Another element is our eldest children have been friends since 3/4 years old and in the last year her child has effectively ghosted my dd, either having a friend on meet ups and excluded my dc, or spent all her time with her mum, or arranged to be with another friend and not come around. She smiles politely enough and will chat to us but only briefly (12 yr old). My dd is not upset, she is bemused by it. But still, they were friends and now it appears she is not good enough. No fall out. Just its very clear she is distancing herself (not in same school or clubs).

Sorry this is so long and convoluted.

I feel as a good friend I should return the favour of having her around at xmas, especially given the current home situation (I am also giving her garage space for her possessions, last time I had them for two years. It was fine, however I would quite like my garage back, but again, if it keeps her possessions safe I would rather she put them in the garage and I lose use of it for a while longer (as well as my sisters stuff in there!)

Finally I also have dogs, her youngest can be too much at times with the terrier so I have to keep them away. Friend then fusses terrier than complains when she jumps up. So end up locking terrier away in utility for duration of visit.

I feel stressed up to the eyeballs even thinking about having anyone over xmas day. Already knocked back an invite to a pub too (I'm incredibly boring and pubs are not my thing...I intend to spend xmas day chilling and mooching around with jogging bottoms on and a glass of bucks fizz playing with presents with the children and dawdling over doing xmas lunch...that was the plan)

Its making my conscience twinge continually since she asked. My conscience says yes, but the rest of me is quite frankly at the point of melt down right now.

Sorry its all very waffly and I sound a bitch about some of the things. I struggle to say no to people and then I do the resentful silently fuming thing. I know its not healthy or good for relationships.

I left her with 'will think about it'.

I do not find her the easiest person to be around in my own home to sum up.

Any thoughts, suggestions or advice anyone?

OP posts:
BlingLoving · 17/12/2018 16:02

I think she's a good friend who, it sounds like, is aware of your challenges. So be honest. Tell her that you like the idea but she knows how bad you are at hosting, especially if you have to cook meat. Ask her if she's willing to do vegetarian.

Or suggest that if she comes over you prepare things together. she can do meat and you'll do the veggie stuff in advance.

However the dog is trickier. Frankly, on that one, I'm inclined to say don't compromise - it's your dog and your house. So remind her how things go with the dog and ask if she's sure she wants to spend Christmas with you as you're not going to lock the dog up the whole day.

Basically, i think you need to be honest and see what she says.

CupsAndPentacles · 17/12/2018 16:07

I would say yes, but I don't see Christmas day as being something SACRED for family ONLY. Ask her to bring wine, desserts, gravy. Give her jobs.

The dog is different though. I bend over backwards for my friends but I don't feel the same about dogs. [sorry]

BrieAndChilli · 17/12/2018 16:18

to be honest i would think back to the time when she had you over for xmas and how much it meant to you. I think she is desperate and having her over would mean the world to her. if she like to cook then maybe aske her to do the cooking while you entertain the kids and play with your dog?

When i first met DH i was going to spend xmas alone as was NC with my family. even though we had only been going out a few weeks he insisted i go home with him for xmas at his mums. his whole family welcomed me with open arms and although i'm sure his mum would rather not have had a stranger to stay over xmas she didnt show it and i'll always be grateful for her hospitality. 18 years laer we still get on great.

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CupsAndPentacles · 17/12/2018 16:42

Yes, please, do it.

I left an abusive man and it wasn't easy and knowing that somebody's there for you is the push over the finish line that you need.

Toooldtocareanymore · 17/12/2018 16:48

its clear you are really struggling with this but you cant put out your whole day to help someone when its not coming easily to you at all, I think you should go back be honest say I've thought and thought about this but its too hard, you know what i'm like in kitchen and cooking our vegetarian diner to time everything to be ready is the limit of my abilities , i'd be so stressed trying to cook for another three, and my shopping its already done anyway so I cant stretch what I have, I cant keep the dog locked up all day, and the 12 year old's are not getting on, but to help your conscience could you then suggest she comes over in late afternoon/ evening and you do a couple of rounds of sandwiches, just a few nibbles, or cake, maybe ask her to bring a bottle or two, tell her you haven't included gifts for her lot in your budget so you'll get a selection box for kids and she can get same for yours, get out a load of games the kids like to play and have charades and the like, it gives her somewhere to go with kids to get her out of house, if it doesn't suit her at least you know you offered

incendio · 17/12/2018 16:56

I would return the favour. Remember how much it meant to you when she done it for you, it will mean the same to her.

Take advantage of her prowess in the kitchen and ask if she minds giving you a hand with the cooking and do it together. Or ask her to bring a starter or desert or something.

However, I wouldn't compromise about the dog. I would just remind her the dog is there and you won't be locking it away, then it's up to her if she can put up with that.

InDubiousBattle · 17/12/2018 16:58

I think that you should have them over. She's hosted you 3 times so it's your turn and it sounds like the alternative for her would be awful.

steppemum · 17/12/2018 19:27

well a couple of things jump out at me.

  1. she took you in at christmas when your life was falling apart, and she is now asking for a return of that favour.
  2. you would find this all really difficult, especially the cooking.

I think you could do one of these if you want to make it work:

text/talkk to her. - say some of the stiff you have said here - you aren't going to do a deep clean, so house will be messy, your Christmas is chillign in tracksuits while kids play, not sociable hosting, you are having a vegetarian dinner etc. So if she comes, she comes on those terms.

get her to cook. Seriously ask her if she would do the cooking of the meal (veggie). That woudl take it off you and keep her busy.

PinkCalluna · 17/12/2018 19:33

She supported you I really think you need to do the same.

That doesn’t mean you can’t set boundaries though. You can state meat free, she stays out of the kitchen, no comments on the house and that the kids have to be nice to the dog.

Cherrysherbet · 17/12/2018 19:43

Some people are happy to host, and feel comfortable doing so. I am not one of those people, so I get where you’re coming from. I would stress, worry and feel I had to ‘put on a show’. It’s not fun for me, and it wouldn’t be fun for my family, as I would be stressed and tense. My anxiety would be through the roof. Christmas should be relaxing and enjoyable.
If you don’t want to do it, don’t.

greendale17 · 17/12/2018 19:44

So end up locking terrier away in utility for duration of visit.

^I wouldn’t do that for any friend

Bluntness100 · 17/12/2018 19:49

Seriously? She invited you for Xmas three times? And you happily went and enjoyed her hospitality and this one time, she's in need and you want to bin her and her kids off? Becayse it's a bit stressful she dan fuck off.

This dear readers is why people end up posting threads saying " why Have I got no friends".

bumblingbovine49 · 17/12/2018 19:58

Why not ask her to bring the meat. Explain about your cooking skills and finding hosting stressfilul and ask her if she is happy to cook but at your house.
That way you offer your jouse and your friend cooks meat and a Quorn roast and vegetable trimmings ( which everyone can eat).

RockingAroundTheChristmasTree1 · 17/12/2018 20:48

You should defiantly tell her to come!
Especially after her inviting you for Christmas when you were going through a tough time.
Just tell her that your not as good as her, and does she fancy giving you a bit of help doing christmas dinner. Having a couple of glasses of wine while cooking together, it sounds like she really enjoys things like that and that you need the help..So it's a win win!
And the children will be occupied with their presents, so you two get to have a good chat and a laugh, while getting a tedious job done!

Yabbers · 17/12/2018 20:51

Invite her over to host Christmas at yours. Sounds like she’ll do a great lunch and you can have fun with the children.

turnipsaretheonlyveg · 17/12/2018 20:54

I would say yes you are welcome to come but, it is a vegetarian meal. I would ask her to help cook or do it all if this stresses you and not her. Explain you are not the hostess with the mostess but you are happy to share what you do if that works for her.

Goposie · 17/12/2018 20:54

Have her over but don’t think of it as you hosting her, more of a team effort in terms of organising, cooking and even financially

turnipsaretheonlyveg · 17/12/2018 20:57

Our dog will be crated a fair bit over Xmas because we have non dog trustworthy people staying it is fairer on everyone and the dog has no concept of Xmas.

Positivefreedom · 17/12/2018 21:05

Thank you, really helpful replies. I am not a natural host. I don't do calm and organised. My children do get stressed out when we have visitors as they see me get v stressed cleaning and tidying. This is before Christmas day. My youngest does not want anyone around, but I have managed to get her to see the situation and to accept my friend and her children around for a few hours. Eldest is all for it.

Obviously I would like to get her out of the situation. Obviously I am more than happy to see her ex sat by himself on Xmas day (suspect when his 'entertainment' and free childcare is taken away for the day he will go visit his parents afterall, twat).

It is logistics and seeing how youngest feels about it, its thinking about how we would usually spend it, its how to get everything done before Xmas day, its how to make sure friend does not start taking over.

I think, honest chat is the way forward as most have suggested. I will get gifts for her and the children, it would feel awful otherwise. Food wise I will keep to my budget the best I can. Just buy more potato's and veg and let her bring any meat and dessert and anything else they fancy.

Not sure I can give up my kitchen to her...but thinking about it I did it before for a week once, I can do it again, I will just make one condition of huge quantities of roast potato's and gravy. The rest I don't mind. Roast potato's are really what I'm worried about...I'll see what she says. But that could work quite well. At same time feels inhospitable. I will bring it up and see which way the land lies first after reminding her I will not be up to her standards (I can cook from scratch, but a lot will be from packets!) and I will be slow, not competent and brisk like she is!

Re the house, it is what it is. Will do the basic's. Children will help.

Re the dogs, will find a way, she will need to be in with us. Friend will need to accept laddered tights or wear jeans that or learn to ignore her and she will settle down.

Thank you again for your replies. I do overthink and make problems where there are none. Can feel it all straightening out in my head now!

@Bluntness100 and you dear reader are why I don't make friends with people who pride themselves on their rudeness dressed up as 'honesty'.

OP posts:
TSSDNCOP · 17/12/2018 21:11

Honestly? I didn’t get past the part about friend fleeing abusive husband with kids and looking to find a friend at Christmas.

Everything else is just crap you need to deal with.

wombatron · 17/12/2018 21:56

You may not want to, but she is seeking refuge with you on a day where she feels she has no option. You never know, you may enjoy it if she can help you with the dinner.

But she needs to get over the dog. My friends wear the same pair of jeans to mine as they are the 'doggy' clothes. Mine aren't too much, they will ignore you, but have a "if i fits, I sits" motto for most peoples laps if the lap owner permits.

steppemum · 18/12/2018 10:50

can I also suggest that you plan a chilled boxing day with your kids, so that is your kick bakc and relax day, then you will have that to look forward to, with the bonus of no dinner to cook!

lazymare · 18/12/2018 11:43

Just ask her to cook the meat at home and bring it with her.

FusionChefGeoff · 18/12/2018 11:56

Ask her to host but at yours???

So you work out a menu between you, you do food shop, she pays half but then she is in charge in the day - just in your kitchen??

Kisskiss · 20/12/2018 12:26

Glad you thought about it and are having her over.. I know maybe you felt a bit overwhelmed but she sounds like a nice dear friend who had extended the same kindness to you, and probably really needs your support right now

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