Does Old Rose die at the end of Titanic?

[ManicUnicorn]

I'd always thought that the scene at the end of film where she's asleep and the ship comes back to life and she goes back to the staircase and sees Jack, Mr Andrews etc was her just having a dream, but then someone recently said no she died and that's her 'going back to Titanic' and my mind was completley blown because alll these years I thought she was just dreaming! And then I thought well Jack did say that she was going go die 'old and warm in her bed' and she chucked the necklace into the sea so it makes sense after she's finally told her story ...

Is it maybe open to interpretation I wonder?

(And yes, I know this is random lol)

Yes you could be right, that's my secondary theory, that she might be asleep. It's actually less annoying if she is.

I've always wondered, when they show all the photos of her flying planes and horse riding, how she ended up with money after changing her name and avoiding her previous life when she landed in New York.

I do think Rose is slightly narcissistic for travelling around with THAT many photos of herself though.

Of course she dies!

I wonder if those who think Rose is sleeping are also the ones whose parents sent good old Rufus to live at an unknown friends farm out in the country when they were children.

Yeah, she dies.

A big plot hole was that she became this famous actress, but no one ever recognised her?

Yes I think she dies, an old lady warm in her bed.

I cry when the mum and children are lying in bed and the mum is telling them a story. Gets me every time.

Doesn’t it say that her husband killed himself after the Wall Street crash?

She died - I think she goes back to the titanic and Jack because that was her happiest time, the time she found her freedom and true love. That’s her afterlife, her happiest time surrounded by people she enjoyed the company of and Jack.

Jellycat I believe it was Cal that killed himself after the Wall Street crash.

I always wondered about how her family never recognised her if she was a famous actress, but then someone brought up that she would have been a silent film star and films would not have been as mainstream as they are today?

I don't know enough about film in that era to know whether that is viable though.

Oh sorry, I forgot she and Cal weren’t married. I did mean Cal though!

Don’t worry too much about the necklace, Britney Spears’ suitor retrieved it a couple of years later.

Didn't Celine Dion's husband buy it* for her?

*it turns out to be a 171 carat sapphire necklace.

IT'S JUST A FILM!!!!! JACK AND ROSE DIDN'T ACTUALLY EXIST IN REAL LIFE!!!!!

Oh, the whole film is stuffed with plot holes bigger than the iceberg.

I do agree that travelling around with a giant array of photographs of yourself doing cool stuff is both (a) incredibly improbable and (b) deeply narcissistic, and a clumsy infodump on the part of the writers, and that casting all the other Titanic passengers as an admiring audience to the post-mortem reunion of two people who knew each other for a few stressful days a lifetime earlier is a bit much — unless the writers were trying suggest to us that post-Titanic Rose had turned out to be a terrible IT’S ALL ABOUT MEEEE pain in the ass.

Most interested in how an entirely penniless Rose with no identity, contacts, useful skills or education, armed only with a cut-glass accent and a gaudy diamond she cant sell, managed to make her way to fame and fortune in the US. If Titanic had gone down, a years later, she could have pretended to be a surviving Grand Duchess Anastasia with memory loss, or something.

unless the writers were trying suggest to us that post-Titanic Rose had turned out to be a terrible IT’S ALL ABOUT MEEEE pain in the ass.

I think she was an 'all about meeee' pain in the arse right from the start. Oh woe is me, I have all this money and privilege, but I'm going to fuck everything up by screwing some bloke I met five minutes ago and everyone else can get stuffed.

She does die. I’m sure there was a line where jack told her she was going to die as an old lady, warm in her bed, surrounded by her family. She’d brought all the photos of her family onboard the research ship, so she was surrounded by family, old and in a warm bed!

It’s been a while since I saw it but I also think she died and went to meet Jack in the afterlife/dream before dying. Really nice ending.

I know a lot of people don’t like that she threw the heart pendant away, but I guess it was hers to choose what to do with. And she thought it belonged in the sea along with the Titanic.

Reminds me a bit about PANS LABYRINTH where the ending is also open to interpretation. I find that ending much more sadder though.

Actually, agreed Midnite. Not to mention her charming visit to steerage to matily clink improbably shiny pint glasses with some offensively stereotyped Irish people, who have actual problems like being poor and forced to emigrate, and then showing off her ability to go en pointe in her stockings. What a girl.

Though I must say my strongest emotion throughout young Rose’s scenes was ‘Lay off the hairdye!’ And everyone in the cinema laughed at the Hand on the Misted-Up Window sex scene.

Don’t worry too much about the necklace, Britney Spears’ suitor retrieved it a couple of years later.

how an entirely penniless Rose with no identity, contacts, useful skills or education, armed only with a cut-glass accent and a gaudy diamond she cant sell, managed to make her way to fame and fortune in the US.

I wondered that. I suppose a lot of Titanic emigrants arrived having lost all their worldly goods. I think they did get some help when they arrived in the US. She might have thrown in her lot with, e.g. someone who was going to join existing family members, to get a roof over her head and then presumably took some kind of job - her cut glass accent and education might have helped her there.

... she might also have been able to pawn the diamond, even if she couldn't sell it!

If she'd pawned the necklace Billy Zane would have eventually found out she was still alive..

I think a penniless immigrant who claimed to have been travelling steerage on the Titanic arriving at a Lower East Side pawn shop with a famous diamond that had been in the crown of Louis XVI is going to have a lot of inconvenient questions asked of her, and probably face being charged with theft!

Orgyofsausages that's a helpful post. Thanks

I'd assumed she died too , but the least she could have done was left the necklace by the side of the bed - then granddaughter and Bill Paxton could have sailed off into the sunset together

I think Jack lovebombed her. I would also have passed the necklace to family