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In the 70s and 80s: did people call 999 more?

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wanderings · 16/11/2018 08:17

Attitudes to emergency services are very different now, especially with cuts to public services. Nowadays the advice is more "don't call 999", rather than "call 999".

Following on from the thread about calling ambulances for broken bones: I was a child of the 80's so I only had the child's perspective on that period. Growing up, I was very lucky in that almost nobody in my family ever needed to go to hospital for anything, right up until my late twenties, so I had very little experience of the process, but I remember so many stories about ambulances being called all the time when children fell off bikes, always calling the police for this and that, and in those days police would be on the street regularly anyway, and doctors made home visits. I remember a lot of what we learned at school about emergency services; they were always there ready to be called, a policeman is your friend, etc. The only advice I remember about not calling 999 was for something that didn't happen, such as calling the fire brigade when there was no fire.

The above may of course have been the simplified, age-appropriate advice: anything wrong, call 999, you learn about appropriate use of public resources later. Was the advice for adults back then always to call 999, or "call a doctor" for lesser things? Nowadays, while something is going wrong before your very eyes, you have to make the careful choice of pharmacist/GP/minor injuries/A&E, and if MN is anything to go by, woe betide you if you get it wrong and waste the wrong public servant's time.

Is one reason we do things differently now because far more of us have cars, and mobile phones, and can more easily get someone to hospital? Is it that we can easily check symptoms on the internet, when we couldn't before? Are we generally more "informed" than before? (I remember my dad calling 999 to complain about a police helicopter that had been overhead for hours one night. Even I knew this wasn't an appropriate use of 999, but I said nothing.)

I do think this is relevant to now in a way, because people who were children in the 80's might now be new parents, and are suddenly faced with the modern ways of getting help, and their only experience might have been what they learned as children. (I expect many people are more likely to call emergency services for children, rather than for themselves.) Somebody who has been healthy all their life, and unfamiliar with hospitals in general, might automatically call 999 if they see a hint of an emergency.

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Babdoc · 17/11/2018 14:49

More people died from heart attacks in the 1970’s, but not purely from bad care or late diagnosis.
Far more people smoked, so far more people had heart attacks in the first place.
Also, we didn’t have coronary stents or very good anti hypertensive drugs and hadn’t begun using clot buster drugs as first line treatment. All that we could do was stabilise dysthymias, monitor the ecg and consider referring to the cardio thoracic surgeons for a coronary artery bypass. There was a virtual epidemic of cardiac deaths among middle aged male smokers when I was a young doctor- I had to watch 35 and 40 year olds die from their third heart attack in a year.

Lwmommy · 18/11/2018 22:11

@ebearhug called 111 at 6.30pm yesterday who said theyd call me back, they rang at 4.45am, 4.49am and 5.05am today leaving me a message saying theyd called 3 times so would be closing the case. Usurprisingly i was asleep when they called.

Anyway managed to get through this morning ad they got me into an urgent care centre, when i gave them the name of my Gp practice they said "ok well we'll never get you an appt there Grin"

So saw a GP this morning, raging ear and throat infection 750mg amoxycillin 3 times a day and a warning to call if it gets any worse.

Annandale · 18/11/2018 22:20

Just to say that anyone who reads this thread - don't be afraid to take action if you need to. I rang 111 earlier this year and ignored their advice to go to A&E - part of my decision making was knowing that everyone thinks 111 sends too many people to A&E. Well, if I'd followed their advice rather than pushing until they gave me a less urgent alternative, dh might still be alive. Sometimes people are just ill and they need help right then and there.

wanderings · 19/11/2018 06:39

@Annandale Thank you for that. When something happens right in front of you, it can be a tough decision who to call, with all these mixed messages about safety v stretched public services. I was with someone quite young who had sudden chest pain; after a quick Google, I called 999, described the symptoms, and an ambulance did appear. Several hours later it turned out it was nothing serious, but it might easily have been.

I remember the TV programme "999" back in the 90's was once mostly about children making false 999 calls, but the last item was about one 8-year-old girl who called when her mum got into serious difficulty with electricity at home, and this girl had the presence of mind to keep calling back, as if she sensed she was being disbelieved. (Lots of close-ups of the girl holding an outsized telephone handset to her little head.)

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TroysMammy · 19/11/2018 06:58

As children in the early '80's we found a motorbike that had been dumped in some undergrowth in our village. We called the Police, unsure if it was 999 and they came out to see. We had a lift home in the Police car and were well pleased we had done our duty.

NothingOnTellyAgain · 19/11/2018 08:43

What does "getting into serious difficulty with electricity" involve?

I'm picturing something like Metropolis with snakey electric power circling round her Grin

wanderings · 19/11/2018 21:34

@NothingOnTellyAgain Faulty vacuum cleaner, sending electricity through her, while she lay paralysed on the ground, with crackles and sparks. She did recover though.

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NothingOnTellyAgain · 20/11/2018 08:58

Thank you!

I was baffled!

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