Am I going to lose money for 2 of my children? Am terrified. Universal Credit.

[UCWorries]

Just read this, I have 4 children age 6 to 14

If I get sent onto Universal credit from ESA does that mean I won't get any money for 2 of them?

Is it equal to losing half my child tax credits?

That's what I live off.

I'm shaking right now. Am so scared.

I thought that all children born before April 2017 will keep getting tax credits? Are they seriously cutting it down to 2 children for people moving over to UC?

Surely that can’t be true... the 2-child limit was controversial anyway but one of the main points stressed was that people were given plenty of warning before the cut-off and that it wouldn’t affect any children already born.

Who resigned Teresa May

Oh Esther McWitch.
When the going gets tough. The "tough" sure get going. Not that I'm moaning like. I'm Deefuckinlighted I wish she'd take a few more with her.
However .Why is it okay for them to walk out of a job, but an entirely different story if Joe public does it.
Do as we say not as we do

I strongly believe both parents should be held far more financially accountable for their children (especially those born within a marriage or civil partnership- as there is a legal contract between the two parents which should offer far more protection in the event one sods off).

OP you’re obviously a victim of this and your ExH should be held to account and made to support you/ the children. Your situation is not uncommon and the government 100% should do more to make your ExH pay. It also wouldn’t hurt to bring back a bit of the ‘social stigma’ that used to come with running out on your family!

However, your inability to now support your children isn’t the tax payers fault so why should they pay out for FOUR children? When there are couples out there who both work and aren’t able to have ONE child of their own yet due to not being able to afford it. Why should they pay for your FOUR?

Your EX should be footing this bill- not your fault though OP you can’t force him to pay x

"You can't force him to pay"

The government should be forcing them to pay. They're quick enough forcing lone parents to sign on and be available for work. Making them jump through hoops finding any excuse to sanction them or forcing them into jobs that may not suit their circumstances.
Misogyny that's all it is.

These 'men' can walk out not pay a penny for their children. Not get an ounce of bother or the Government.
Yet the resident parent is the one who is worried sick how Shea going to feed and clothe her children. I'm sorry but There something that stinks here

Oh go away Meteor. Wish there was a block button on this site. Had quite enough of you on the mental health thread.

but she Mcvey dosent have to now apply for UC

this situation was a gift for her,bailing saying its brexit but she was up against a wall with UC

thats now 2 ministers have jumped that wanted UC,that should tell the torys that its un workable

They should collect it as tax like they do in America - failure to pay is tax evasion there and is chased.

I thought that it was just applying to children born after a certain date? They can't have families of more than 2 getting benefits then just cutting benefit for the ones already alive randomly.

🤔 Did what I was saying get lost?
Because I’m quite surprised it got that response from you OP

OP I don’t think the tax payer should be footing the bill for your 4 children but (the intention of what I was saying) was that it’s deplorable that your EX has walked away and left you in this situation (one which many women are in) and that the government aren’t doing enough to support THAT. They absoloutley should be knocking on his door and making him ensure that you and his children are able to continue a comfortable existence regardless of him leaving.

I don’t think I should be ‘blocked’ for saying that. Actually thought I was being rather understanding - at the end of the day your situation doesn’t sound like it’s of your doing or your fault you shouldn’t be expected to go knocking on his door begging him to pay the government should be forcing him to!

I agree total misogyny and if you took my ‘the government shouldn’t pay for your kids’ out of context with the rest of my post ‘...because the government should be making your Ex’ then I apologise for any offence caused 🤔😒 Jesus

I'm only going to say this once as I feel I have to, but. Somewhere a long the line do the Royals not need a kick up the butt over all this. I could be wildly wrong and I apologize if I am but surely they have to over see and approve these policies. Oh and where is the ECHR.

We have a constitutional monarchy, Spider. The Queen has no real power.

Whatever the Royals may think privately, they have to agree with the decisions made by Parliament and the democraticly elected government!

@Awwlook

They don’t have any power but I don’t disgree. Feels like women, having children and either staying home or going part time to raise them, are basically rolling the dice and crossing their fingers DH doesn’t sod off with his secretary 😡

I think it wouldn’t hurt to being back a bit of social shame TBH- was recently at a dinner with my DP and lots of friends where one of DP’s acquaintances was very vocal that her and her DP only having been ‘offical’ for 3 months but ‘together’ for over a year- because his wife and 2DC had ‘been in the way’ and now were taking ‘so much’ of the chaps income that they couldn’t afford to buy a place together (in the very upmarket suburb she wanted) and would have to rent in the city.

😡🤔 Apparently this was the Wife’s fault for being a SAHP to two under fives!!!

I felt so incredibly angry at this woman that she could so braizenly say all this with NO SHAME!

I (calmly) told her I thought she was a disgusting human being and that her and the cheating fella should be ashamed of themselves and rather than renting a place look for a rock to crawl back under - we both ate the rest of the meal in silence until me and DP left. It was odd because I could tell 80% of the table totally agreed with me but wouldn’t have dreamt of saying it? Why?

I think the major problem with UC is even the jobcentre staff and hmrc staff do not fully understand the rules themselves, so you cannot always get straight, factual answers.
It’s the transitional protection aspect that is muddied waters, it should exist for those already with more than 2 children but there seem to be (from stories I’ve heard) a whole load of loopholes whereby they can apply a change of circumstances which cancels the transitional protection and therefor only paying for 2 children.

I wouldn’t panic too much yet op, I last heard that they hadn’t even written the software to include families with more than two children so it seems it’ll be a while yet before parents of more than 3 William Ben affected.

I would say though, for anyone on tax credits, putting whatever you can afford by in a pot each week (even small change adds up over time) will be something to fall back on when you are eventually pushed over to uc. I’ve started overpaying rent, utilities etc by a few pound each month too. Heard too many stories of 7 weeks without money and it’s all very well getting an advance but then you have less for you’re future payments and are always sort of chasing your tail.