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If someone is found guilty of assault is there any way of finding out more online?

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Tokenorange · 11/11/2018 08:45

Someone I work closely with was found guilty of assault (ABH) outside the workplace. They got 6 months community service. This has been kept very quiet but I know it for a fact. Is there any way I can find out more details online? My boss knows and isn't remotely bothered. Me & this person work at the same level, there is nowhere else for me to move in the company. I'd just like to know exactly what I'm sitting opposite.

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Ohb0llocks · 11/11/2018 08:49

Usually if you google the name a report will come up.

Is it just s39 assault they've been convicted of?

If your boss isn't bothered I'd be inclined to say it's none of your business really.

Ohb0llocks · 11/11/2018 08:50

Sorry just seen the ABH part.

ABH can be a massive umberella of things really.

Hedgehog80 · 11/11/2018 08:52

Why do you need to know?
This person did something wrong, was punished for it and probably wants to get on with their life. I can’t see any benefit whatsoever to you knowing all the details ??
You know it was some kind of act of violence but why not judge them on their actions now rather than having to drag up the past
What are you planning to do if you know the finer details ? Start making things awkward at work ?

Tokenorange · 11/11/2018 08:55

It's my own security I'm thinking of. I'm not posting any more details here though to explain

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headinhands · 11/11/2018 09:00

So say you find out the details, then what will you do?

Timeforabiscuit · 11/11/2018 09:01

Your work place should have robust lone working policies etc.

Tbh, many people receiving a sentence end up losing their livelihoods by oneway or another - hes been punished, you havent said his behaviour in the workplace has changed in any way and your workplace is aware - there really isnt a need to go poking around.

I can appreciate that its un-nerving, but you might want to have a prpoper think about what is specifically bothering you.

PoshPenny · 11/11/2018 09:08

Sounds like you're more out to find out and then use that information to tell everyone what happened more than anything else. Presumably this person has been dealt with already whether that was taking his punishment or no prosecution because the CPS decided that. Either way it's none of your business. Your boss probably knows full well what happened.

Madeline88 · 11/11/2018 09:11

Apply to the courts for a copy of the judgment is probably the easiest way to find out.

Madeline88 · 11/11/2018 09:14

Justice is everyone’s business actually, open justice is a key principle of the legal system, that’s why the vast majority of court hearings are open to the public.

Tokenorange · 11/11/2018 09:16

I'm not remotely interesting in mud-flinging Posh There are no 'policies' at my workplace, I checked. Our boss just shrugged their shoulders as the incident happened outside work. But I am cautious now because this person has shifted their attention to me and I'm trying to navigate a careful path to keep myself safe. I don't want to have to walk away from my job.

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EwItsAHooman · 11/11/2018 09:47

Is this person a new starter or have they been there a while? If they're a new starter then they'd have to have disclosed details of the conviction, for him to have received a community sentence means he's been deemed safe to be in the community. If he's a long-standing employee the you should judge him on his behaviour before and after the conviction.

Amaried · 11/11/2018 11:43

I think if they only got community service than their crime is deemed to be on the milder end of the scale. I'd just keep my interactions with him short and relating to work only if you're nervous.

TonTonMacoute · 11/11/2018 13:30

If somebody has just been through the hell of the justice system on a charge of ABH I would think that the very last thing they would want to do would be to repeat the experience.

It is extremely unlikely that they would dream of hurting someone else, especially in their workplace. A second conviction would probably lead to a jail sentence in those circumstances.

Leave it and try not to worry.

FrogFairy · 11/11/2018 14:42

If you were in a relationship with this person you could apply to the police for details under Clare’s law. I am not sure if you can apply as a colleague though.

What you say about this person turning their attention to you sounds worrying. In your place I would want to know more to keep myself safe.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 11/11/2018 14:51

6 months community service for assault. More souls on the Dole get more don't they under work fareHmm. Anyway that's another thread.

However regardless of the joke of a punishment and how true it is I'm not sure, but If it's a spent conviction. I dont think an employer could hold it against you. If the manager sacked them because if it that could get done for unfair dismissal.

greendale17 · 11/11/2018 15:01

**Hedgehog80

Why do you need to know?
This person did something wrong, was punished for it and probably wants to get on with their life. I can’t see any benefit whatsoever to you knowing all the details ??
You know it was some kind of act of violence but why not judge them on their actions now rather than having to drag up the past**

^Would you be saying that if he was a paedophilie? Been done for manslaughter? For all you know this man might have a history of violence and if I was working with someone like that I sure as hell would want to know!

TonTonMacoute · 11/11/2018 16:55

Would you be saying that if he was a paedophilie? Been done for manslaughter? For all you know this man might have a history of violence

This sort of over reaction is exacty why it is being kept quiet! He isn't a paedophile and he hasn't killed anyone. If he had a history of violence he would almost certainly have been jailed.

It is far more likely that he has just made one stupid mistake. You can't hound everyone who once did something stupid out of a job.

whatsthestory123 · 11/11/2018 17:04

they have been sentenced and their punishment dealt with

if you didnt know this can you honestly say their presence would bother you?

if you were in their shoes how would you feel?

do you know how difficult it is to get a job with a criminal record? ?very difficult,most wont look past that, how are they suppose to be a productive member of society when most wont give them a chance

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