People in UK saying "high school"

[Davros]

I've noticed this term being used more and more. To me it's "Senior" or "Secondary" school. Schools with the old fashioned divisions have "Lower, Middle and Upper". Even if you follow the American usage it isn't the same as our Senior, i believe it is years 10, 11, 12 and 13. Why are people calling Senior school High school? I know, each to their own blah blah

Outwith is a word that needs to spread like an Americanism on MN!

I got an invoice in work today, from a Scottish business, and it said 'outwith the scope of VAT'. I was delighted at the use of the word and immediately thought of mumsnet

My secondary wasn’t called a high school, but in Edinburgh where we live now, they are mostly high schools.

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How do non-Scots manage without outwith?

I'm a non-Scot outwither. I'll happily appropriate any worthwhile quirks, even the American ones

I've only seen it used widely on MN so, apart from Scotland, thought it was a mistake or a new term I hadn't heard or used

^^ that’s where we got the idea from Davros. I accept that the inference may have been unintentional.

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How do non-Scots manage without outwith?

They use outside instead, although it’s not really a direct equivalent.

I went to a high school in the nineties!

High school way before Americanisms

I am in south england. My DC school is actually called XXX High school

Why does no-one in the UK use the term 'high school' except on Mumsnet?
I know people in Scotland us the term 'high school' but obviously I don't mean them, I mean people in the UK.

^ this is what you are saying. You really can't see that?
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Can you really not see how you are excluding something/one?

It still high school in parts of the NE- we have first, middle and high schools

i don't know what is common usage in Birmingham or Devon either or anywhere else I don't actually live

Which is what the problem is OP, instead of going ohh some people are calling it high school i wonder if its a regional variation you decided it was an american thing. If you'd said are secondry schools called high svhools in other parts of the country then. The answer would have been yep they are

See you knew schools were called high schools you indeed went to one. Would it take a lot to work out in areas were for instance the three tier system was used that calling a school a secondry school when it was actally the third school people went too (first, middle, high) would be erm illogicall so all school in that area arent going to be secondry school their high schools
Indeed both my local secondrys growing uo were High school, year 6 was full of which high school are you going too?

No I meant everyone. I don't see where the idea that I've excluded the Scots comes from. I don't know what is common usage in Birmingham or Devon either or anywhere else I don't actually live

It comes from your own words. Not long ago you said this;

I've only seen it used widely on MN so, apart from Scotland, thought it was a mistake or a new term I hadn't heard or used

So, you heard a term in Mumsnet, and because you hadn't heard it before you decided it was new, apart from in Scotland, which would imply that you know it is used in Scotland. Since you have UK in the thread title either you don't know Scotland is in the UK, or you see it as irrelevant to you somehow.

Can you really not remember what you type, or are you deliberately misunderstanding everything?

They use outside instead, although it’s not really a direct equivalent. It would depend on the context. Normally ‘outside of’ but also ‘beyond’ or potentially ‘not included within’.

I think the OP has been quite comprehensively told now:

-High school is widely used throughout the UK
-Scotland is part of the UK.

I'm talking about the academic years or type of school, not the name. I've only seen it used widely on MN so, apart from Scotland, thought it was a mistake or a new term I hadn't heard or used

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I only put "apart from Scotland" because it became clear it was usual in Scotland, not because I already knew that when I asked the question

I can’t get my head round that the OP went to a school called XX High school and she posts a thread asking if it’s a ‘new term she hadn’t heard before’

You implied it was an undesirable new trend to call secondary school high school in the U.K. You suggest that it might be an Americanism creeping in.

Except the term high school originated in Scotland not America and is commonly used here. Not a new undesirable trend. Not a creeping Americanism.

You knew that’s what we commonly call secondary schools here and yet you didn’t say something like, “I know the term high school is traditional in Scotland but other parts of the U.K. seem to be adopting it now as well- why?”

Cross post as I see you now say you didn’t know about Scotland.

I teach in South Wales and many (mine included) schools are called High schools.

I get what the OP was asking, I thought it was pretty obvious. High school as a type of school rather than simply the name of a school. So the only high school near me is a GDST school than starts in reception - so obviously NOT a high school. It’s just a name.

And I would guess that an awful lot of people (obviously not all, before we get another onslaught of people shoring up their individual posts) on this thread failed to pick up that nuance - that just because your school is/was called Blahdiblah High doesn’t mean it is a high school in the sense of being preceded by middle school, it’s just a hangover from a previous era.

It’s been an interesting thread but like so many on MN people are so keen to put their individual point over they fail to pick up on the bigger picture or broader question that’s being asked.