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Teachers' pay

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Gottalovethesummer · 13/10/2018 16:23

Even though I work .6 of a timetable (equivalent to 3 days) I often work between 32-37 hours a week. I decided to calculate roughly how much I earn per hour after tax. It comes to about £13-15.
Is this normal?Am I putting far too many hours in for a .6 contract?
Just wondering what other teachers pay is per hour. Is it more because you are more efficient with your time?

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nostaples · 13/10/2018 17:17

Earn a decent wage as SLT BUT work pretty much a 12 hour day 6 days a week. Is it worth it? I don't know.

Jackshouse · 13/10/2018 17:25

I remember as a NQT calculating that I was earning less than minimum wage for the hours I put in.

The average full time primary teacher works 60 hours a week, on 0.6 that would be 36 hours and for primary 55 hours, adjusted that would be 33 hours. Add on a few hours for being part time and having to catch up with training, emails and sharing info then your hours sound about right.

I left teaching last academic year.

Jackshouse · 13/10/2018 17:25

Sorry 55 hours for a secondary teacher is average.

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PurpleDaisies · 13/10/2018 17:27

All of us work far too many hours for the pay. It’s pretty much impossible not to.

Bobbiepin · 13/10/2018 17:29

A couple of years ago I worked out that I would earn more per hour as a delivery driver for asda, if I continued working the same hours. It is what it is, for now.

shiningstar2 · 13/10/2018 17:35

If you work 3 days a week teaching you will probably have to do marking prep ext ext during parts of the other days. I used to do this on Thursdays/Fridays leaving weekend free. Would often hear other part time staff complaining that they were doing full time hours for part time pay ...but not really so.

The full time staff have another 2 days teaching while I'm doing my marking ext for a 3 day timetable. This means they have all of their marking/prep to do at weekends. So they have 5 days of this stuff to cram in free/home time.

I think the only thing you need to watch op is making sure you are not lumbered with a disproportionate amount of medium/long term departmental planning. If full time staff are given one unit of the timetable each to do then to be exactly fair you should be given 60% of a unit for example. What would be more usual would be for 2 part time staff to split a unit between them. Likewise if other staff are doing 2 units you should only be doing one.

shiningstar2 · 13/10/2018 17:39

I know this can be difficult to negotiate but you have taken on part time work and the part time income that goes with it to have a little more personal space ...not to free up unpaid time for the department so if this is happening you need to be polite but firm about it. Good luck.

motortroll · 13/10/2018 18:32

I work 0.6 and I definitely don't work as many hours as you. You need to say no to any extra responsibilities first off unless you're getting paid specifically for them.

I borrow and recycle resources as much as possible, I do generally work at break and lunch but try to make sure it's only photocopying, filing or quick marking so I don't feel stressed.

When I set ks3 hw I try to make sure it's relevant but v quick to mark eg quiz/test/poster/factfile/research diagram/sketch or limited to a paragraph or 2. With ks4 we have some pretty robust time saving assessment policies after we all got sick of it! I only have 1 ks4 class this year which has made a huge difference as well!

I try not to be too technical when planning lessons and I do tend to plan on a week by week basis rather than really far ahead. It sounds like it would be worse but if I plan really far ahead I start trying to add more and more complicated ideas which take more time. Don't get me wrong I still plan a good lesson but good lessons don't always need complicated planning.

It helps that I have a really supportive department and if I need something I know they've already done they just hand it over.

I have 2 days off a week and I don't work during those days at all UNLESS I have mock exams or end of unit tests to mark as they obviously take time.

I work 3 days mon, tues, fri always leave by 4.30 for childcare reasons. I work maybe 1hr mon night. I don't work tues night. I don't work at all weds and thurs daytime. I might do 1hr on Thursday evening if I need to. I don't work fri evening. I do between 2 and 4 hrs at the weekend. I get to school at 8.10am and the day starts at 8.45.

I have had to accept I'll never set the world alight as a teacher or have amazing career progression doing this but it has sorted out my work life balance and I'm happy at work now. I'm still a good teacher, I get great results Smile

tomhazard · 13/10/2018 18:36

I work full time as a HoD in a private secondary school. I have pressure points during the year where I work a very heavy load, particularly Christmas, but often I can get all my work done between 8 and 4.30 mon-fri. I work one evening until 5.

I have to do a few hours work over the Christmas holiday, and a bit more over the Easter break marking coursework, but my summer holiday is 8 weeks of genuine freedom and I only occasionally do work in the evenings.

So personally I don't feel underpaid, but I think this has much to do with changing settings in recent years.

Nuffaluff · 13/10/2018 18:38

I’m primary. I work 0.6. I only work 28 hours per week. I don’t take a break in my day, I make the most of every moment. I work very hard, but I have young children so I don’t want to be a slave to the job.
I work efficiently and give the most effort to the things I know make the most impact on pupil attainment. I’m very good at my job. I get good results.

sweetkitty · 13/10/2018 18:45

I’m in my second year of teaching, I worked out after tax I earn about £7. I’m also 0.6 Mon-Weds, don’t work on my days off but probably work about 35 over those 3 days including Sunday night. I have 4 DC part time has been great for me

Fizzyhedgehog · 13/10/2018 18:59

I'm on a 0.9 contract but I work 8-5 four days a week. (I don't really take a break on those days.) I also then do another 3 or 4 hours on a Sunday. If it doesn't get done, it can't have been too important. I do get most stuff done in my PPA time, though.

C0untDucku1a · 13/10/2018 19:28

Im 0.8. I work 8.30-5.15 two days and 8.30-6 two days. I mark one set of books at home at the weekend. I might bring two hours of marking home one evening.

It will get worse when after-school revision starts every. bloody. night. because i wont be starting marking until that ends at 4.30. Grr.

Maelstrop · 13/10/2018 19:28

It’s average hours for a teacher and the bane of a part timer’s life is that you work when you’re not at work.

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