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Ballet teacher thinks DD is unteachable

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Falcon1 · 13/10/2018 12:50

Bit stressed about this so advice would be really appreciated. My DD has just turned 6 and has been doing ballet since she was 3. Her ballet teacher pulled me aside this morning after class and said that DD isn't doing anything right and doesn't know whether she just can't physically do it because of poor turnout (she says her hips don't seem to rotate or something) or because she isn't listening. She said that all the other girls are making progress and DD isn't. She's apparently tried everything she can think of but nothing is working, and if she can't do first position there's not much point in her continuing.

I'm really upset about this because DD loves ballet. She is very well behaved at school and I'm sure she isn't wilfully not doing as she's told. She can be a bit of a dilly daydream sometimes so it could be partly that. But I'm also concerned that something might be wrong with her hips. She does walk with her feet turned in but just thought she'd grow out of it. Should I take her to see someone? She'd be mortified if she was told she couldn't do ballet anymore. Not sure what to do!

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BiscuitDrama · 13/10/2018 12:51

If she’s walking with her feet turned in, yes you should take her to the gp. How long has she been doing it for?

JennyOnAPlate · 13/10/2018 12:53

If she's walking with her feet turned in then yes you should take her to see the GP. It's a real shame if the ballet teacher won't let her continue and activity she enjoys though.

stellabird · 13/10/2018 12:53

Why not get her hips checked ? My DD turned out to have a congenital dislocated hip - which should have been picked up at birth - when she was 18. It can happen !

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NigellasGuest · 13/10/2018 12:55

Ask the ballet teacher recommend a good physio.

tobee · 13/10/2018 12:56

I would:-

  1. speak to gp about turned in feet
  2. change to a new ballet school

At that age isn't it about having fun/enjoying yourself, not being called to the Corps de Ballet to appear at Covent Garden?

AlexaShutUp · 13/10/2018 12:57

Try a different dance school. My dd is a dancer and attends a wonderfully inclusive school, but some of the other local schools are well known for encouraging children to leave if they aren't quite up to scratch for any reason.

See how she gets on in a different environment. If the feedback is similar, it might be worth investigating, but I wouldn't read too much into what the dance teacher has said if you don't already have other concerns.

If you're worried about the way she walks, ask the GP. Hopefully, he/she will be able to put your mind at rest.

Millipedewithherfeetup · 13/10/2018 12:57

Yes take her to the GP and get this checked out !

LIZS · 13/10/2018 12:58

Some children just do not have natural coordination or musicality. Dd had an inturn on one foot but still did ballet until 16. Hers was assessed as not significant enough for treatment. Perhaps look for a less rigid dance class, she does not have to take grade exams but her self esteem may suffer if she cannot keep pace with her peers.

Anythingforacatslife · 13/10/2018 12:59

See a physio about the in toeing and maybe try some different types of dance. Ballet is going to be impossible if she can’t manage any turnout at all. It can usually be improved enough for most little ones to do ballet but longer term there has to be a good degree of turnout. But at her age dance should be enjoyable.

fabmabs · 13/10/2018 13:18

Few thoughts (only as a mum who watched dd do ballet to grade 3)

  • ballet teacher sounding a bit frustrated (her problem not yours)
  • maybe your dd doesn't understand what she's meant to be doing rather than can't get her feet to do it. Ballet lessons have loads of instructions to follow in quick succession. Also kids classes often in halls with no mirrors so no feedback there
  • maybe no harm to ask your gp to check - even if only to put your mind at rest
  • 6 is pretty young to be under stress about ability - some teachers let them do "class awards" if not full exams - be real shame to take away the joy of dancing if she loves it - some teachers have more focus on exams/technique others more on performance/shows. Are there others nearby?
bubbles108 · 13/10/2018 13:27

I'd get the feet and hips checked out by GP

Falcon1 · 13/10/2018 14:09

Thanks all. I feel terrible now for not getting her feet checked before. I'll definitely try to get a physio referral from the gp.

I am worried about DDs self esteem not being able to keep up with her peers so perhaps stopping lessons at this particular school is a good idea. There's a dance class at school so maybe that would be a better fit.

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greathat · 13/10/2018 14:12

There are different types of dance school. There are ones where it's all for fun and more serious ones where it's all about competition and being a ballerina when you grow up. Shift her to a fun one

WellThisIsShit · 14/10/2018 10:56

If your dd has been doing ballet for 3 years and ‘can’t do’ first position, something is certainly going on! And my first thought is turning to the ballet teachers’ herself, given the astonishingly unprofessional conversation she just had with you.

Im actually quite angry! What the hell does she think she is doing, having this little talk with you where she pretty much just blamed the little girl without having a clue what the problem might be... after 3 yrs of teaching?!

As a former ballet obsessed teen, who was a teaching assistant for the junior school, 8 hrs non stop every Saturday throughout my teenage years (paid peanuts... and loved every second of it! I was too tall to make it professionally sadly).

Anyway, although it’s been a few years, I think I remember pretty accurately and haven’t entered my dotage yet! And I am really confused with this whole situation...

Why doesn’t the teacher have a strong idea what’s going on here?! Why has she just dumped all this completely out of the blue onto you, without any suggestions about next steps, or support, or anything at all.. except a sense of shame and the strong urge to take your child out of her dance classes.

Incompetent and vile. She sounds like she just wants children who pick dance up without her even having to teach beyond just ‘showing’, and wants to prune off any child who isn’t naturally good at ballet or who doesn’t have the perfect body type for ballet. And sod what that does to the children she’s tossing aside.

I hate that type of ballet teacher, it’s so superficial and pathetic.

Basically, a good teacher would have been able to tell you their theory of what might be going on and be a good source of support for you as you seek professional help etc. A good teacher who’s spent any time with your child should be able to hazard a guess whether your child is having trouble understanding instructions or a physical issue with her hips. A good teacher will have knowledge about hip joints, basic anatomy and common problems. They should certainly know what they should be dealing with / trying to get a child to work on in lessons, and what needs medical advice. Especially as your dd walks with feet turning in I’d suggest that any goodballet teacher should have noticed this and should been been monitoring progress / other symptoms to see if she grew out of it or it was something they needed to gently discuss with you.

So... I’d suggest, not to worry but perhaps try and have a think to see if you can work out whether the problem is more from dd not knowing what to do, or from her body? And go to your GP.

And please think about swapping ballet teachers to a school that is more accepting, or just more competent? There’s no reason for your dd to stop ballet, whatever the barriers a child faces...

Falcon1 · 14/10/2018 17:11

Thanks Wellthisisshit. I actually feel pretty angry about it. Especially as the conversation was overheard by other pupils and although me DD couldn't hear, she knew she was being talked about.

She begged me to tell her what the teacher had said and I told her this morning that she's just a bit concerned that some of the positions might be causing her discomfort and that perhaps we need to get it checked by the doctor. DD broke down saying that the teacher always shouts at her and she doesn't know what she's supposed to be doing. I asked her if she wants to keep going and she said no. So I guess that's that. Pretty fuming though.

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smilesandballet · 14/10/2018 17:23

Falcon1 - as you can see from my username I have a ballet mad dd (now aged 15)
She started at a very bad studio where technique was not instructed properly. I would recommend firstlyseeing a GP to check her alignment etc then finding another studio. The teacher sounds horrid! Many smaller studios have some fab teachers who will teach great technique etc but are happy for kids to carry on for a smaller hobby until they’re about 10/11. Our studio has recreational and more serious classes for every grade so that they can improve the kids who maybe don’t have perfect natural technique but still want to dance. I hope your dd can rediscover her love of ballet- it is a big part of dds life and I def think all the extra hours and inconveniences are worth it xxxxx

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