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DD (aged 11) struggling to make friends

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Bookridden · 03/10/2018 22:03

DD has gone to bed crying because she isn't making new friends in her secondary school. I am worried sick and feel helpless. She has always struggled for friends but had a few girls in primary that she went around with, but they have gone to different schools. She spends break and lunch times alone. She won't let me approach her pastoral care leader as she feels humiliated.
I can see that part of the problem is intense shyness and lack of confidence. She seems completely unable to make small talk unless she knows someone very well (then she is chatty and confident). She comes across as unfriendly and aloof, even though we've discussed the importance of smiling and saying hi. She just seems paralysed by a lack of confidence.
Over the years we've tried drama, Guides, numerous school clubs, play dates. The children play happily enough with DD, but no friendships seem to develop.
DD has an unfashionable hairstyle( she isn't interested in appearance and won't change it). She wears jeans and t-shirts out of school, so pretty much the same as the other kids. She is very academic and eager to please, and wants to do well in school. She has a smart phone but isn't interested in using it. Out of school she enjoys reading, drawing, walking, cartoons, being outdoors, messing about on the WII.
I'm so worried about her. I know she's unhappy but she won't do anything to help herself or to let me help her. She is kind, humorous, witty, desperately unassertive (a target for mean comments on occasions from spiteful kids). Most children seem to like her, but as an acquaintance only.
Is there anything I can do? Will she ever find her tribe? I am heartbroken to see her so unhappy.

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Rosie2000 · 03/10/2018 22:10

Teacher here- contact the pastoral head of house (or equivalent) and discuss. They can speak to her tutor (or you could speak to tutor directly?). Encourage her to join as many extracurricular clubs as she can. With regard to break/lunch many of our quieter students find the library a great place to spend free time and she is likely to meet like minded friends in there. If her tutor/pastoral lead know then they can keep a discreet eye on her and guide her towards others in the same situation. I have a dd who is very similar, she has no real good friends at school but rubs along fine. My other younger dd is a social butterfly, but even she struggled in first few weeks of secondary.
So long ramble but the school will help, she doesn’t have to know you called them.

Rosie2000 · 03/10/2018 22:12

And yes she will find her tribe eventually Smile

Bookridden · 03/10/2018 22:34

Thank you. I think perhaps I will contact the school and see if I can talk to them without her knowing.

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frogsoup · 03/10/2018 22:39

Watching carefully as you have just described my DD to a T! Year 6 now but I am angsting already about next year, when she will be in the same situation of new school witb no primary school friends going there.

Ohyesiam · 03/10/2018 22:43

I do role playing with my desperately shy unassertive son, and it has helped a bit.
Just some stock phrases he can come out with in “ banter “ situations have helped too. So if someone says “ you never smile” he responds with “ so you say” or similar.

Howmanysleepstilchristmas · 03/10/2018 22:44

She sounds like me as a child. It took me until 17 to realise the easiest way to make friends was to pretend not to need to, and act confident. Dd is the same, but has loads of new friends since starting secondary last month. I’d spoken to her about how hard shyness can be and how it helps to pretend you’re not!
She approached another girl who was alone and asked if she wanted to sit with her until their friends came (dd knew no one!). The 2 of them went on to approach anyone they saw alone and ask if they wanted to sit with them. It seems to have worked- she has 12-15 new friends now and is constantly meeting up to study/ going to the cafe/ on the phone. Maybe a similar strategy might Ho?

Howmanysleepstilchristmas · 03/10/2018 22:45
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Bookridden · 03/10/2018 22:51

Thank you. We do role play and I keep telling her to say hello to people and call them by their name. I have suggested saying to girls who seem friendly "can I sit with you at lunch today", but DD hasn't done this, telling me that she can't find them, that they're busy with other kids etc. There's always a reason why she can't approach them, and I feel frustrated! This would be fine if she wasn't so unhappy about being alone.

Just a quick question to those parents with similar DC - how do you cope with their upset?

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Nodressrehearsal · 03/10/2018 23:03

Get a list of the lunchtime clubs and talk through where she’s going to have lunch and the route she’ll take to get to the club. It’s so daunting the first term of a big school. Email her tutor to flag this up. Re-join a youth theatre or Private LAMDA (drama) lessons are great for confidence.

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 03/10/2018 23:09

I would reiterate joining lunchtime clubs - I think that is the point of them in year 6. Also talk to the pastoral support /HOY - that is part of their role. Do you think she would respond well if she was given a role/ asked to go to a club because they wanted some more members etc. The library might also be a good place to meet. Even though others might appear happy and settled, the friendships are still in their early stages and there is still space to include a few more.

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 03/10/2018 23:09

Year 7 not year 6!

Everincreasingfrequency · 04/10/2018 07:21

Yes lunch time clubs are a good idea - it's a way of meeting people with similar interests but also, importantly, having something to do at lunchtime!

The confidence thing is so tricky isn't it - it can seem self perpetuating because it means dc comes across as awkward, which then means fewer people speak to dc, so confidence drops again!

How big is the school? Provided it's a reasonable size, it's very likely that there are 'her people' there, but finding them is very difficult when you lack confidence. I think also some people find it harder to read the signs of someone who is or isn't interested in them - a problem for the less 'socially savvy' yr 7s is not being able to 'sense' who is interested in being a friend, and who is not! So they find themselves being rebuffed - and confidence dips again!

So I would say definitely contact the pastoral people - they may be able to organise things so that she spends time with likely friends. Be prepared to push things - if they say 'it's all a matter of time' they do have a point, but at the moment your dd is very unhappy and needs help!

HurricaneFloss · 04/10/2018 08:07

Just a quick question to those parents with similar DC - how do you cope with their upset?

I found it painful but dealt with it by letting DD talk about the situation but (eventually learning) not to make suggestions because, honestly, the social set up in Year 7 is so complex we have no clue how to resolve it!

I think it's good that your DD has some solitary hobbies because she can get some release from social pressures that way.

My DD knuckled down to school work in Yr 7 and there was a definite change during Yr8 and she is now making some nice friends in Yr9. Your DD will find her tribe.

Everincreasingfrequency · 04/10/2018 08:49

It's a tricky situation because I am inclined to agree with Hurricane that parental suggestions are often a bad idea - yr 7 relationships are complex and we're likely to get it wrong! At the same time you can't just leave it if your dd is really isolated at school - that is an awful position to be in.

So I think the first thing is to speak to the pastoral people - if they're good they will help. But if they don't, you may need to push harder if things haven't resolve naturally.

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