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WOMAN! This is why you are wrong.

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SodTheBloodyLotOfThem · 02/10/2018 10:33

Inspired by many, many threads, I have come up with a (Not exhaustive) list of why you, as a WOMAN, are wrong:

  • no children - you are cold and selfish. Doesn't matter the reason. But if you were a MAN you would be independent and ballsy.
  • children and working - OMG why did you even have kids to let someone else bring them up? (Note a MAN does not get accused of this)
  • children and stay at home - OMG you are a leech on your MAN or society
  • go out lots with the kids - how will they ever learn to walk and amuse themselves? You are making them spoiled.
  • stay at home lots with the kids - Why are you not socialising them? They will be the weirdo in the corner unable to make conversation at 45 years old
  • wear makeup, stylish clothes, heels etc? Selfish shallow tart
  • wear comfy clothes etc? - lazy slob
  • single parent? Hang your head in shame WOMAN. Even if your partner of 10 years fucked off with another woman or a midlife crisis, or abused you throughout your relationship, he is a MAN and can do no wrong.

Also your house is too clean/Not clean enough, you spend too much time on your own interests/socialising because you are selfish and not enough time because you are dull and boring, You should do Everything for your partner and DC otherwise you are lazy but you shouldn't do all the stuff because you're emasculating/infantalising them.

I am sure there is more. But I am PISSED OFF that there is literally nothing a WOMAN can do without drawing criticism. Even on MN.

OP posts:
Fromage · 02/10/2018 16:29

Yourenotericlove - incels.

ladyvimes · 02/10/2018 16:30

Except you are not a WOMAN you are a PERSON WITH A CERVIX!

Fromage · 02/10/2018 16:40

Oh I think if you're wrong about something men do, you're a woman. And thus wrong.

But if you're doing something natural and female, like you are aggressively breastfeeding or defiantly menstruating or upsetting people with your goddamn choromosomes and not having a penis and wanting to get together with others to discuss matters that concern you, then you are a terf cervix person and you are even WRONGERER.

Yourenotericlove · 02/10/2018 16:44

Incels are a very small number of disturbed men. OP is saying these are widespread views including on MN and I disagree.

Some are (SAHM v WOHM) etc but the examples she has used are very extreme and I don't think are widespread.

I'm a childless woman. No-one has ever suggested I'm 'selfish and cold' nor have I ever met anyone with that view. I've also never met anyone that would say women who wear make up are shallow tarts. And I've never seen that on MN either.

Cyw2018 · 02/10/2018 16:51

Where I work...
If you are a women who has got to senior management... The who did they shag rumours start. Obviously if they are male then they get places on their own merits.

PasteSandwiches · 02/10/2018 17:57

It's saddening how many comments I've had myself (and heard said to others) over the years that reflect what the OP is saying.

WorraLiberty · 02/10/2018 18:07

Most of those criticisms come from other women though, not men.

That's certainly true IME

Molokonono · 02/10/2018 18:10
AmateurSwami · 02/10/2018 18:12

Spot on op!

Then there’s the policing of how many children is appropriate before you’re simply a “breeder’’ a la that vacant faced cunt off the wright stuff.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/10/2018 18:13

But having an only child is frowned on too.

AmateurSwami · 02/10/2018 18:18

Agreed errol
“So selfish Hmm

Randomnumbers7483 · 02/10/2018 18:20

The problem is that all this shit doesn’t just come from men - it comes from OTHER WOMEN!!

marblesandconkers · 02/10/2018 18:21

YES I hear you OP

Also:
Single mum and date? not fair on your kids to try to blend families/to expect them to accept a boyfriend

Single mum and don't date? not fair on your kids to make them substitute spouse/not have a life of your own.

nomorepeoplepleasing · 02/10/2018 22:31

We're definitely all WRONG about whether we have children, but also when and who with:

  • have children young= throwing your life away, don't you want to achieve something?
  • want to build a career and have children later? Only have yourself to blame if you have fertility problems. Don't these women realise they can't put off mother nature? Why do they expect the NHS to fund them having IVF? How old will they be when their child leaves school?
  • get together and have children with a wealthier partner? Gold digger
  • get together and have children with a partner without money? Don't you think about what you're doing before you start a family?

[Oh, and Yournotericlove- I've worked in a number of places, mainly male dominated, and these are things I've heard many times including sometimes about myself. Obviously no-one makes the blanket statements I made here- just comments about specific women (who have the traits I said) and I'm sure they'd say they'd also say it about a man... except they never do.

Dljlr · 02/10/2018 22:39

HollowTalk

What about:

You are wrong if you don't accept a man in a pink frock could be the woman of the year.

You are wrong if you think a man shouldn't be able to race in a female-only race.

You are wrong if you think that a women-only panel could consist of all men in lipstick.

You are wrong if you think that men who've raped women shouldn't be allowed in female prisons.

I couldn't give a shit about anyone who'd think the sorts of bigoted wank in the example op; but this is spot on. I'd add, you are wrong if you don't believe that the dictionary definition of 'woman' equates to hate speech.

HollowTalk · 03/10/2018 16:51

@Dljlr yes, or that biological facts equal hate speech.

It's like living through Alice in Wonderland, but the version written by George Orwell.

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