BBC reports that sexual assault is a choice!

[anotherangel2]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45711410

Anyone else digusted that the BBC thinks it is acceptable to report an organisation that says rape is a choice victims make.

No I'm not disgusted because that's not what they're saying is it?

They're saying that if you blackout you are more likely to become a victim of sexual assault, not that someone is conciously choosing to be raped.

How did you come to that conclusion?

*According to the American Addiction Centers, individuals can choose to participate in risky behaviours that they may not perform when sober, due to impaired decision-making.

That could be driving a car, getting into a flight or committing - or being the victim of - a sexual assault or other crime, says the NIAA.*

They clearly say ‘individuals can choose to’ and then give the example of become victim of sexual assault.

I read the article and it bears no relation to the OP's shit stirring reaction. YABVU. Oh, right. It's under _Chat.

Not seeing anything about sexual assault being a choice??

How commonly do drinkers suffer blackouts?01 October 2018US & Canada

It's something many people have experienced at least once in their lives - a night of heavy drinking followed by a day of missing memories. A blackout.

The amnesia caused by excessive alcohol consumption has become a topic of discussion in the wake of sexual assault allegations against US Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

One of the accusers says Judge Kavanaugh tried to force himself on her at a party when he was drunk, 36 years ago. A second woman says he exposed himself to her during a college drinking game.

Mr Kavanaugh strongly denies the accusations, and some have suggested that he could have suffered a blackout from alcohol, which he also rejects.
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What are the consequences?

According to the American Addiction Centers, individuals can choose to participate in risky behaviours that they may not perform when sober, due to impaired decision-making.

That could be driving a car, getting into a flight or committing - or being the victim of - a sexual assault or other crime, says the NIAA.

Sorry, but you are looking to be outraged by something that is simply not there. Do you not have anything better to do ?

@AnalUnicorn I'm both intrigued and disturbed by your username!

I apologise if I have miss understood the article. To be honest I posted a question not a statement in chat and I did not expect such an aggressive reaction from such a post. I feel as if I can’t ask a question MN again now.

Just because people didn't agree with your reading of an article isn't a good reason to have a hissy fit and a in the you're all byes" approach - ie we're all such meanies that you daren't post.

Yesdrinking to the point of recklessness increases the risk of you making drunken choices to of behaviours that you really wouldn't go near when sober. As your level of drunkenness is not always apparent to a third party (especially if that person has also been drinking) the issues aren't consent, drunken consent, relying on apparent consent (drunken or not) will never be straightforward issues.

Oh, please. Enough with the nonsense. The original post was inflammatory. Posters pointed that out.

No, not disgusted. You have a right to question and have opinions but others have a right to disagree.
Is serious assault (sexual or otherwise) the fault of the aggressor/perpetrator? Yes, clearly but there are factors that increase people’s risks and seemingly obvious steps to be taken to reduce the risks to individuals. That is not blaming victims but encouraging sensible risk reducing behaviour.

Just as I kept my young children away from cliff edges and locked medicines away, so I taught my older children/young adults that being so drunk you can barely stand placed you at significant risk of assault.

They learned to not jump into bed with strangers they’d met that week and safer, more respectful sexual activity came within a committed relationship.

We paid for licensed taxis to reduce the risks to our young people being attacked walking home alone at night when under the influence.

They learned to go home with the same people they went out with and to leave details of first few dates with a trusted friend.

Abroad they learned to have a spare phone, to keep a pre loaded payment card separately. In some areas of the world to always go about in small groups or at least pairs and to respect local customs.

They learned that taking drugs risked damage to their health and careers and was best avoided altogether.

Do people who get insensible with drink or drugs deserve to be attacked? Obviously not. Do people have a degree of responsibility for keeping themselves safe? Clearly just as people shouldn’t drive a car under the influence because of the risks, so they should not deliberately place themself in harms way.

Speaking from personal experience i certainly made unwise choices in my younger days after drinking to excess , i was never assaulted but i did have the odd regrettable one night stand .

That’s nit what they’re saying.

Good post Cherry

Yes well put @CherryPavlova
Its never the victims fault, but there are things we can do to mitigate the risks in certain circumstances

I think all these posters must work for Beeb, op. They're certainly up their arse.
. They have people brain washed you see. Like C5 with their benefits programmes.

Excellent post Cherry.

I've seen on other threads posters being torn apart and called victim blamers for suggesting that there are choices people can make to keep themselves safer.
Assault is always 100% the 'fault' of the perpetrator, and yes, as has been said ad infinitum, people should be able to go out get drunk, walk alone down dark alleys at night etc. without fear of attack, but the cold hard fact is that these things can put you in danger, and it would be wise to avoid such situations if possible.

@Awwlookatmybabyspider yes that's right, all of us are wrong but you, the only one, are right.

How amazing!