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Did my parents tell me too much?

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oversharingparents · 22/09/2018 11:19

Was talking with a relative the other day and she expressed that my parents have , probably inadvertently, confided too much in me.

Both grew up in challenging situations, my mother more than my father. DM was exposed to abuse from very early age, and then raped in her teens, had psychiatric treatment in the 80s that didn't help at all (ECT).

As far as I remember, I have known she was abused since I was 8 or 9 or so. Knew about the ECT from age 13 or so , maybe earlier . Knew she had self harmed from about that age too and taken overdoses etc (not since I was born thankfully). I don't think she had anyone else to tell. I remember I read her diary once but I didn't find out anything I didn't already know if you see what I mean. She has told me some graphic stuff and shared poems with me etc. She has a lot of mental health problems and I think was diagnosed with BPD once. I don't understand much about it to be honest. She has PTSD as well. She has often suspected that she maybe has minor learnings difficulties.

She wouldnt talk to her family, I know that.

DF Wasnt abused as such but has written me very long letters about his relationship with my mum, including sexual, which at 17 was very upsetting to read and difficult to understand why he wanted to Tell me. Mum has confided things about their relationship too, although once my dad did. He treated me as an adult all along. Gave me adult responailites I could not deal with. He told me at age 4 he was divorcing as he didn't have the balls to tell mum, perhaps. I was expected to deal with that myself.

I feel that they maybe see me as their therapist of sorts, I'm not sure, definitely with dad any father daughter boundaries are long gone. Mum does her best and is always a very loving mum and tries her absolute best to support me . Would never hurt me intentionally and is my best friend really. I feel sometimes though I have to be their parent.

I have a sibling and two stepbrothers. Sibling is severely autistic and stepbrother is very psychiatrically unwell. No contact with stepbrothers anyway. DM and DF 25 years divorced.

Is it wrong to feel my relative was maybe right in her observations? It's not the first time someone's has said it,... but neither parent acted intentionally out of malice. I feel I should do my best , that it's my 'duty'
, and it would be selfish to wish my parents could confide in others sometimes, but I feel I can't always offer the support they need, mum specially, I am not always sure what to say at all. I often find myself wishing there was someone wiser than me who could offer mum proper help.

I took a nervous breakdown at 19 and have a lot of anxiety problems still now ten years on, on medication and have had a lot of therapy.

I found myself on the defense when my relative said it, but perhaps she's partly correct? It's certainly been playing on my mind since I heard it said , and now I'm not sure what to think. It isn't my parents fault at all, I know that much. Just interested in anyone's thoughts , how I could understand it better.

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NeepNeepNeep · 22/09/2018 11:23

Yes, they did tell you too much. You were just a little child and should have been allowed to grow and develop without all that on your shoulders. Their problems were not their fault but telling you was. You're not at all disloyal if you admit that to yourself. Sheesh, no wonder you had a breakdown at 19.

AnotherEmma · 22/09/2018 11:28

Your relative is right.
Have you ever come across the “Stately Homes” thread?
Have you ever read Toxic Parents by Susan Forward?
There is also a book called Understanding the Borderline Mother that you might find helpful.

Haffdonga · 22/09/2018 11:30

An father confiding his sexual issues to a teenage child sounds abusive.

dangermouseisace · 22/09/2018 11:30

They told you too much. My mum did that, to me. I’ve got MH problems but I make sure that my role is to listen to my children, that I should be the one guiding them through adolescence and into adulthood. An adult is meant to meet the emotional needs of the child, not the other way around!

oversharingparents · 22/09/2018 13:04

Haff I have questioned that before. Was told not to think too much about it as your mind can apparently convince itself of things ... but I do think even at the level he was , telling me about his and my mums sex life for instance, was abusive. It's none of my business and not something I needed to know details about. Have never known quite how to handle that sort of information.

My mum has often said what a wonderful relationship we have that we can tell each other things and I agree, but I'm older now and perhaps have the maturity to handle what I'm told , and a way of telling others if I'm uncomfortable or upset. In my teens I couldn't do that. No one really knew what was going on behind closed doors and those who did, did nothing about it unfortunately. My relative wasn't aware. Lots of secrets kept all round. Very complicated family in many ways.

I was an awful daughter at nineteen though , I didn't get the help I needed for a good year by which time I was suicidal and agorohpibic, and feel guilty all the time..I often think I am wrong to put my needs first and struggle to do so because the guilt comes back.

I know that their problems play on their minds every day. I remember, I said to my mum years ago in an argument I didn't like hearing about, and she said, how did I think she felt having had to go through it, which is true, but I think there's people who are trained and able to support better than I can... I want to be a daughter first and foremost.

And yet the confusing thing is both say they're my parents, my mum gets very distressed sometimes and says she's a crap mum. She isn't, I know she isn't and others tell her the same. She just has a lot going on. She always tells me she doesn't want me to worry about her etc but I'm honestly not sure how I'm can't not worry!! No one else does , or can, so it feels like it's all down to me.

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AnotherEmma · 22/09/2018 13:48

Have you talked about any of this in therapy? You did say you’ve had therapy but it sounds as if more would probably be helpful.

30000Lakes · 22/09/2018 14:05

Have a read about emotional or covert incest. The term is pretty gross but it is describes what you've been through.

oversharingparents · 23/09/2018 15:29

I think I wouldn't know where to start with going through therapy again. The relative in question has suggested I try ACT therapy... has given me a handlful of material on it.. but I'm embarrassed to admit I don't really understand it well at all. I can't see how accepting my feelings isn't like just giving in to it. But I would like to talk some of this stuff over again with someone definitely.

I've read about emotional incest before yes... I think it sort of fits (although do wish there was a Nicer name). Maybe because my mum had no other adult. I often say to myself I wish my mum had a confident, trustworthy , other adult about her so I could really relax. But then again.. I know if she got a partner I'd be worried they'd hurt her.

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UpstartCrow · 23/09/2018 15:31

Is it still happening? Can you tell your parents they need to get a therapist and not talk to you about it any more?

DisplayPurposesOnly · 23/09/2018 15:52

Your parents absolutely told you far too much detail and placed intolerable burdens on a child. You are their daughter, not their therapist! In your mum's case, I can see that some age-appropriate facts might have been helpful for you to know, and perhaps she couldn't help herself saying too much too soon. Your dad doesn't seem to have any similar reasons.

Like a PP I'm not at all surprised it's affected you. I'm quite angry with them that you feel guilty that you don't want them to confide in you.

oversharingparents · 24/09/2018 07:43

It happens less now, depends on mum's mood - if she's having a bad day it brings stuff back. I was exposed to a lot even without her telling me, I used to take her to therapy at 16 for instance, or doctors appointments. I think maybe yes I neeeded to know some stuff ; but graphic details less so .. but then I feel bad that these things happened to her and still cause her distress even now.

I was always so alone with trying to deal with it especially at night and often terrified. I didn't tell a soul and the thing is people knew. My school, social services, the GP - they all knew, but no-one intervened or did anything substantial to help until I took that breakdown. By then it was too bloody late really. I find doing child protection stuff as part of my training incredibly difficult.

Dad has no real excuse at all . The things he told me I did not need to know. I think he exposed me to a great deal willingly and didn't make any effort to protect me at all. I was a child and he has told me he felt I had the maturity to handle it all. I didn't, I don't feel I felt 'confident' until I worked as a HCP and even then, with that training, home is still a v different kettle of fish!

I never felt able to talk about this in therapy and I wish I had now. I had two years of intensive psychotherapy for the anxiety and then a year or so of help for the management of anxiety in the workplace. Both times I wasn't encouraged to discuss my childhood much. I wouldn't know where to start now. Relative is having this ACT therapy now for her own anxieties and is really keen I try it, but I need the space to talk and not just work on strategies to make it all 'accepted' or something. Just don't know who would listen.

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MarthaHanson · 24/09/2018 07:51

I think psychodynamic psychotherapy could be really helpful for you OP.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 24/09/2018 08:10

Perhaps you just weren't ready to talk about it before, and now you are/recognise you need to.

Maybe have a conversation with your GP as a starting point to ask what therapy they would suggest? Or look on the BACP website?

oversharingparents · 24/09/2018 13:28

I'm not sure my GP would really listen to be honest but thats another issue... entire surgery seems to promote an 'in out' scenario where they are more than willing to hand out endless tablets but there's no real chat offered.

I'll have a wee look on that website. I've texted relative asking her to clarify things a wee bit too, not sure what she'll say but it would help to talk it over with someone.

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Hideandgo · 24/09/2018 13:32

Like anyone with unwell parents you have seen and experienced too much. It’s unfortunate and not fair but maybe some counselling could help you deal with it.

Hideandgo · 24/09/2018 13:34

(Or seriously unwell parent I mean. Some degrees of illness can be hidden from kids).

Foodylicious · 24/09/2018 13:48

If your GP is not going to be helpful, you might be able to bypass them and self refer through here.

www.nhs.uk/Service-Search/Psychological-therapies-(IAPT)/LocationSearch/10008

AnotherEmma · 24/09/2018 15:16

This is a useful guide to options for therapy and counselling
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/drugs-and-treatments/talking-therapy-and-counselling/how-to-find-a-therapist/#.W6jxgiLTWEc

SmellMyBeads · 24/09/2018 15:19

You should have been protected Flowers

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