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Worried about DDs BF

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TheCakeDiet · 10/09/2018 09:57

Before I start this, I know I am going to get loads of responses along the lines of ‘back off’ you are ‘over invested’ ‘they are kids - you are weird’ – and in fairness, that is exactly the kind of response I would normally send myself. I have NO IDEA why I am so upset by this, which is why I am turning to the wisdom of MN.

DD (just 14) has a new BF (nearly 15). It is her first boyfriend – or at least the first time she has admitted as much – and they have been inseparable for the last few weeks – since the beginning of the summer. He seems to have done most of the running in as much as he doesn’t live close to us, but has been happily taking three trains to see her every moment he can and he has bought her a couple of sweet gifts. He is a nice kid and a bit different to her usual crowd who are (on the surface) a bit shallow and pretentious whilst he is really straight down the line and, I think, quite sensitive. We all like him, but they are kids – so whatever. I have neither encouraged nor discouraged their friendship, other than to remind DD that she shouldn’t feel pressured into doing and there doesn’t seem to be any issues there.

This weekend DD was having some friends round (boys and girls) and he had been invited a couple of weeks back. I was in and out of the room with pizza and drinks but mostly let them all get on with it. I did notice that BF was very much on the sidelines and that DD was practically ignoring him. All the others are at school together so at one point I did tell her that she should make an effort to include him to which she just rolled her eyes.

Parents were collecting at 10pm and at about 9:30, the BF came into the kitchen and asked for some water. He looked a bit upset and I asked if he was ok. At first he said yes but he didn’t leave and I could see him literally wringing his hands, so I asked again and he said ‘no, not really’. I asked if he wanted to talk to me and he said he did. He started to tell me that he was being bullied at school and before I knew it, he had broken into proper tears – sobbing/shoulders going – properly upset. He told me that he had had a really bad year of it last year (school/parents involved) but things had started to get better but this week, back at school it had kicked off again and it was even worse. He said he didn’t want to tell his mum and dad as it had caused them so much worry last year and he didn’t want to tell DD as he didn’t want her to worry about him, or think less of him for being a ‘victim’ Sad

I advised him that he has to talk to his parents and that as a mum, I would definitely want to know so I could do battle for him and that it would be a lot worse for me if I had found out my DC was suffering in silence. He said he would think about it, but didn’t sound convincing. I then encouraged him to talk to DD thinking I could advise her to push for him to talk to his parents. He said that DD was the best thing in his life and if it wasn’t for her he didn’t know what he’d do. He said he loved DD.

His parents arrived soon after and he left.

The next morning DD announced that she has gone off him and doesn’t want to see him again. Her decision of course, but I feel unreasonably worried about him. I told DD that he seemed quite low at the weekend, and it might be kind to wait a bit, but she flew off the handle and told me that I was pressuring her to date someone she didn’t want to any more.

I can’t argue with that, but equally I can’t stop worrying about him. I think that I am concerned that DD dumping him might just tip him over the edge into depression or worse. I feel awful that I tried to comfort him with the idea of talking to DD who, as it turns out, had been planning to ditch him all along.

I am disproportionately upset and even tearful about this kid, and this reaction is so not me. I am usually completely relaxed about my DC and friendship issues and could not be less interested in the various teenage-dramas that we witness. I know I am over-thinking it and I am cross with myself for feeling cross with DD. I know she can't help how she feels and that teenagers are fickle. I don’t want to feel cross with her, I want to support her and be on ‘her side’ but a part of me wishes she would just say 'I like him again now' so I could stop worrying about him.

I have decided that my upset is 1) because I am disappointed that DD seems oblivious to his feelings having led him to believe that she is really into him. 2) what is going on with the bullying is really awful and he was very distressed and as a mother, it touched me. 3) He thought DD was there for him no matter what and she isn’t. And it sounds like she is one of only a handful of people he has.

I am toying with getting in touch with his mum (who I’ve met once) about the bullying, but am not convinced that I should. I know I am over-invested although I don’t know why, and I think this may be crossing a line. I had been hoping that the bullying thing could be resolved by DD persuading him to talk to his parents, but now clearly this won’t happen.

Step away or call mum? And why on earth am I so upset as to be tearful about this???

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Tinty · 10/09/2018 10:28

As sad as it seems it is not your DD's job to look after or be a friend to someone she is no longer interested in. If he was a horrible boy you would be only to glad of her fickleness. She is young and it is up to her if she does not like him any more. You should definitely not pressure her to have anything to do with him, you probably shouldn't have said anything to her. Except to say "don't be mean if you don't want to see him anymore, just tell him and be straight but kind".

On the other point, you are very kind to worry about him and I think as he has opened up to you about the bullying you should tell his parents. Even if he is worried about worrying them, they would rather know and try to help him again. It sounds like they tried to before and I would absolutely want to know if it was my DS.

seven201 · 10/09/2018 10:33

I think you should ring the mum. Did you promise not to? In safeguarding training, we're told never to promise not to tell. He may hate you for a bit, but he needs support from his parents/school and ultimately it's the best thing for him.

Aprilshowersnowastorm · 10/09/2018 10:34

Speak to school.
I reported a dc who was being abused to a teacher, they dealt with it on my behalf.

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Chiffon · 10/09/2018 10:41

What an awkward position to be in. He sounds lost! He has confided in you (an adult), so you are effectively in some way involved now. I think the best thing might be to speak to the Mum? Did you offer to speak to the Mum on his behalf while talking to him?

TheCakeDiet · 10/09/2018 11:00

I did offer to speak to his mum, yes. He hesitated then said that he would do it. The hesitation is what makes me think he might be ok with the intervention. Plus he didn't sound convincing about talking to her himself, which was when I started encouraging him to open up to DD...

I know he is not DDs responsibility. I think it was the fact that he was trying to shield her from his drama because he cares for her so much, whilst she apparently all of a sudden couldn't give two hoots. He gave a card that night saying he loves her - she left it on the living room table so no snooping. I am just sad that he thought DD had his back, and she doesn't. I am sad for DD because I should not be putting this on her.

I am worried and feel a level of parental responsibility because he has confided the bullying thing to me, it also feel responsibility because it's my DD who is about to kick him when he is down.

If I call his mum, do I say anything about DD as a forewarning, or stick to bullying info?

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Yoksha · 10/09/2018 11:17

You are the type of person who constantly restores my faith in people.

I'd contact his mum. But I'd just stick to the one aspect. Poor lad. My Dgd was bullied from yr7 through to year 11. She became very isolated and cramped. She did not blossom. Then she befriended a very serious Polish lad. He seemed to help her find herself. She's now a happy confident 20yr old. But boy was the intervening years full of angst. I saw her friend's mum as her guardian angel.

TheCakeDiet · 10/09/2018 11:24

The reasons I'm tempted to mention DD are that. I am not sure he has any idea things are wrong and they might be quicker to scoop him up if they know it's coming - 14 year old boy unlikely to tell his parents he's been dumped. But also because I would hate his mum to think that it's ended because either DD or I didn't want to get involved in a bulling drama. When on the contrary, I wish she still liked him.

Not sure. But I think I will text his mum and ask her when would be a good time for a call.

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myfatarse · 10/09/2018 11:48

you DD might have backed off from him due to his needyness and may have felt that she was/had to provide him with his happiness. Although he hasn't told her, he has probably laid it on quite thickly about how much she means to him and being a young teenager this can be quite oppressive and too much to handle (IYSWIM)

I would definately speak with his parents about what he told you, they have already dealt with this with him and now it looks like the earlier they intervene now the better, hopefully

TheCakeDiet · 10/09/2018 13:01

@myfatarse you may have something there. She went from gushing about him to switch off just when he seemed to have really fallen for her.

Apart from the practicalities of what to do about his bullying, I don’t u see stand why I am SO upset. Every time I think about him writing the card or telling me how he wouldn’t. Open without her, I feel fearful on his behalf. I hardly know him but he has a certain vulnerability hidden beneath good looks and swagger, and I think he reminds me a bit of one of my DS.

I really can’t get my head around how much it’s consuming my thoughts and how much I want to fix it. Have never been controlling or over-invested before and I recognise I am being both of these things Confused

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TheCakeDiet · 10/09/2018 13:02

Christ. Stupid phone.

Tearful not fearful and a load of other nonsense typos/autocorrects. Sorry!

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myfatarse · 10/09/2018 13:14

@thecakediet i think you're feeling this way because in part, you are projecting this as if it was your DS.

Have you ever had to deal with bullying with any of your children? i'm presuming not and becuase of that and that he has come to you and confide in you and you are helpless to a certain degree, it has really got to you.

Tell his parents, they will be able to help him best and know that you are a lovely person who he felt that he could come to for help.

Chiffon · 10/09/2018 16:56

The one thing I would say is to not discuss this aspect (or what he has told you anyway) with your daughter as he told you in confidence really. Obviously if your daughter discusses him, she is your first priority.
You're probably sucked in because bless him, he was holding on because he had your daughter and now that lifeline is going. It is going to be hard for him.
And despite what others might mention, I would encourage your daughter to remain friends with him (unless it becomes damaging) as he 'might' need a friend right now.
Have you decided what to do?

TheCakeDiet · 10/09/2018 17:18

@Chiffon That's it exactly. He was basically telling me that his days are hell, but at night he gets to chat to DD and come here at the weekends and that makes it all bearable. He goes all shiny and happy when he talks about DD and I can't cope with how much she is about to hurt him. As I keep saying, I know it's not her fault that her feelings have changed but it's heartbreaking to watch and it's really got to me.

I typed a text to his mum but deleted it. I think I have to tell her about the bullying. I'd want to know.

I'm really hoping that DD will end it kindly and face to face, and offer genuine friendship, but at the moment it's like a barrier has come down when I try and talk to her about him, and I have no idea why. I want to show her that she is my priority, but that she needs to be compassionate, but I'm not getting through.

I'm not sure whether to tell her what he said to me. You are right that he talked to me in confidence, but if it would elicit some empathy it might be worth at least alluding to???

I'm handling it all very badly. Not my usual efficient style AT ALL.

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Rebecca36 · 10/09/2018 17:55

You can't do much about it but I have to say you sound like a lovely person.

Troels · 10/09/2018 18:50

I'd call the Mum, tell her was so upset and confided in you about the bullying and you are worried. Also mention your Dd is not going to be going out with him (her choice 14 year olds are fickle) But you were worried about him.

Chiffon · 10/09/2018 19:02

You need to call his Mum.

Chiffon · 10/09/2018 19:04

And then just step back because there is fuck all you can do about any of this. He will be fine once his parents are engaging.

mama17 · 10/09/2018 19:34

Talk to his mum he will thank you for it in the end. I just want to say this post reflect what a lovely person you are. I think I would be the same if in your position 😩

TheCakeDiet · 10/09/2018 21:03

@Mama17 Thank you for saying you'd be the same. I am baffled by my overly emotional response to this - have been tearful on and off all day. DH thinks I've lost my mind.

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TheCakeDiet · 11/09/2018 09:02

DD texted him last night to say she didn't want to see him again. She did offer a half hearted "still be friends" thing, but apparently he said he couldn't be her friend as he loves her and wants to be her boyfriend. I asked her if she was ok and she shrugged. I asked her if he seemed ok and she bit my head off.

I have texted his mum 'this morning. She hasn't replied. I'm probably the last person she wants to hear from.

Still feel ridiculously upset and worried about him. I know my focus should be on DD and of course she is my priority, but I feel cross with her and don't know why. I'm now starting to wonder if this has triggered something else in me? No idea what, but it doesn't seem normal to suddenly be so invested in someone I hardly know that it keeps making me cry.

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Helpimfalling · 19/09/2018 21:52

Just been sent from your current thread you my love are a lovely lady

I'm so glad there are people like you

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