Muslim women covering their hair indoors at home -anyone tell me?

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I was watching tele with my young niece,specifically gogglebox and nadia husseins cooking programme.
We saw Nadia's little girl without her hair covered, tho her mums was, and both of the sisters on gogglebox had headscarves on.
So, what's the score there, please?
Is it an age/puberty thing that triggers it?
And do Nadia, etc. always wear head covers even if they're home alone with just their families? Or are they covering cos the TV cameras are there?
I told niece that I really don't know, but that I know someone who does
Thanks.

Going back to the devout Muslim lady covering her her head in front of

her grownup son at home - this would suggest she’s worried he would

find her sexually attractive and possibly become aroused or tempted.

Quite extradinary !!

My grandparents lived in their home for about sixty years, over the decades it became a very very strong Muslim community, to the extent I think my grandmother was the only non Muslim left living there at the end.

When I visited, many times I saw the neighbouring women without their head scarves at home, but they would go out with them on. Sometimes much more facial coverings. There was instances when I had to speak to the neighbours, due to my grandmothers age, and the women would always answer the door to me without their head coverings, or come to the house without them on, often dropping off food or if they had something concerning them. And they always looked lovely and well dressed. If my husband was with me, then they were always, always covered.

@kierenthecommunity
A newborn with a hijab on? Are you serious? I live in an area with many Muslims and have never seen a hijab on a baby. I think that's very bizarre.

There’s one in my sons year and he’s in year 2, she’s been wearing it since she started. I saw a lady carrying a new born baby with a little pink hijab on too

I also live in a heavily Muslim populated area and have never seen a child that young or a baby wearing one! I suppose it's family dependent

100% serious. It was a first for me too.

I heard the teacher of the little girl in my sons year had a word with mum about her head covering during the summer just gone as she was getting so hot. But it didn’t change anything

Just googled, they’re definitely a thing. You can buy them on eBay

Sorry to whoever said she knows a woman who wears a headscarf in front of her son that just cannot be true.

Nope sorry. There are hundreds of interpretations/sects/conflicts of thought in Islam but without a shadow of a doubt among those hundreds and hundreds of differing views NOT ONE says you should wear a scarf in front of your son!

I am Muslim and know for a fact this is just bollocks. That woman (made up/invented?) if she is doing that is a strange human being and has nothing to do with Islam.

I mean honestly this sort of rubbish is why there is so much ‘fake news’ and misinterpretation around.

Muslim women don’t wear a hijab at home. I mean come on isn’t this logical?? They don’t need to be modest with their fathers/husbands/sons (!) etc. Do people really think they go to sleep
Wearing them or something?

Fathers brothers sons grandfathers uncles nephews all exempt from needing a hijab

It's not fake news. I know her. That's what she does.

I am Muslim and know for a fact this is just bollocks. That's very rude.

My lovely friend is Muslim, she takes her off when she gets home. She has one by the front door that she can throw on to answer the door in case anyone male walking down the street can see her.

She wears it inside if her husband's family are present but not her own brothers, but I think yes in front of her Uncles as some as not blood relations.

She has her hair cut in a out of the place way in the hair salon and no males are booked in on that afternoon.

Her daughters started wearing the headscarf in school in year 4, this also included wearing the burkini for the school swim run. They also observed fasting for Ramadan in year 6 SATs this year.

We know children who cover and adult women who don't so it's largely driven by personal/ family preference/ religious interpretation. But most start covering at puberty, regardless of age.

My friend covers her hair around men who aren’t immediate family, her eldest DD chooses to do the same. Her second DD doesn’t cover her hair at all (both girls are in their teens) and her youngest says she doesn’t want to either.

I guess the reason the women on TV do it is because the cameras are there.

There are a lot of Somali children at my kids primary and quite a few wear hijabs from reception. Really lovely bright patterns as there is no uniform hijab which there are for a few secondaries nearby.

I can well believe you saw one on a baby. Go to Westfield on any given weekend and you will see plenty of toddlers wearing them. Usually a cultural thing though. Mostly Sudanese and Somalian families.

Of course there are also many Muslim families where the teenagers look like any other British teenager.

Really fantastico? I don’t think you will find many toddlers wearing hijab, even in Westfield. Why do you say that it’s mostly Sudanese and Somali families who do it? I would say that most young Sudanese girls don’t actually wear it.

Go to Westfield on any given weekend and you will see plenty of toddlers wearing them. Usually a cultural thing though. Mostly Sudanese and Somalian families

Never, ever seen this.

@FreerOfIcefyre does she ask the salon to do this or is it a standard service they offer on particular days/times?

I always assumed on gogglebox it's because they will be seen outside of thier home so want to cover up for that.

What is the perceived risk if a Muslim woman was seen without her scarf, maybe through the window or something? What would be the outcome for her?

(Hope that's ok to ask? I don't know anyone Muslim to ask and I've always wondered!)

@AccidentallyRunToWindsor she lives in an area where there are a lot of other Muslims and the salon caters for a lot of Muslim women.

My friend was born in another country so I am unsure whether this has any bearing on the her being seen worry. I do not think she is unduly worried about being seen whilst within the home, merely being seen whilst she answers the door as she is in public at that point.

I think in the community it would be frowned upon if she was seen without her scarf but there wouldn't be any repercussions because of it., more likely just a disapproving head shake rather than violence against her. Her husband is from a different country (arranged marriage) so I am unsure as to how strict his religious beliefs are.

I asked her lots of questions, like what is your hair like? Long or short? She is absolutely the most loveliest person and I like learning more about her faith.

My neighbours don't wear theirs at home. They answer the door and put the washing out without a headscarf on.

Thanks for the clarification @FreerOfIcefyre. I am always interested in how others live and observe religions.

@AccidentallyRunToWindsor me too. I worked with a Hindu and a Sikh back in the 90's before the internet and found their beliefs very interesting.

I went to a Catholic school and back then we were not taught other faiths so I loved hearing about wedding customs like ours is something old, something new, one of theirs was someone steals the groom's shoes and he has to pay to get them back

I'm an atheist but don't really remember much about other religions being taught at school except Jewish people can't eat lasagne!

I wonder what the history behind the shoe stealing is?

The root of covering hair is sexual (apparently it distracts men and therefore should be hidden while praying). Therefore it is not covered (by normal Muslims) in childhood at all. Girls start wearing hijabs etc during prayer at the minimum marriageable age which in islam is 8. Sone parents will force their daughters to cover their hair all the time from thus age onwards, others will wait until puberty or until their daughters want to. Women who do wear head coverings full time will only do it at home when men they are not related to come into the house/will somehow see them. Its like pyjamas. You wouldn't wear pyjamas if you were on TV or in front of visitors but you would wear them in front of your family.

@faffandahalf is though? Yo many the whole covering up your hair for some men but not all rule seems illogical. Unless one has been raised in Islam its quite confusing, especially when it happens to what happens indoors. Take nuns as a compare and contrast. They still wear their habits inside their convents, what's to say that hijabis don't do the same?