New to the NHS could some explain the pay to me please?

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Starting a new job in a few weeks. Working a band 3 nhs office role. Job comes with training so I will hopefully move up to band 4 after 2-3 years. I'm confused about the new pay deal so would be very grateful if some who understands it could tell me if what I think is right/wrong.

If I understand correctly then I start on £17, 787 which then increases next April to £18,813 and then a further increase to £21,412 in April 2020. Or do I just stay on the starting salary? Thanks

Bump...hoping someone who understands the pay changes sees this this evening.

I believe you now stay on the starting salary for two years? But to be honest it’s as clear as mud, nobody seems to know....not even the unions!

www.nhspay.org/band-3/

I wouldn't bank on promotions though. For someone to be promoted to a higher band, there has to be a vacancy, so if a particular department needs 4 band 3s and 1 band 4, you couldn't get moved up to band 4 unless the existing person in that role is promoted themselves or leaves. You would have to find a vacancy at the higher band to apply for elsewhere, once you have the qualifications and experience to move up.

So as it stands, you’d be on that salary for this year and next, but each year you pass a gateway and go to the next level within band 3. The afc website says that your pay will stay the same for the first two years for now.

www.nhsemployers.org/your-workforce/pay-and-reward/agenda-for-change/pay-scales/annual

You don't get to work your way up to a band 4, you have to actually apply for a band 4 vacancy. You work your way through the band, eventually reaching the top after about 5 years then that's it. I've been a band 3 medical Secretary for donkeys years, there's no magic jump to a band 4 unfortunately

Have you had confirmation that your staying salary is £17,787? If so then you will stay on that from 2018-2020, and after Sept/Oct 2020 you will go to the £18k value. Anyone employed before the changes in April are on translational scales so will get more increases in the next few years than new starters will.

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Your pay will increase as you suggest, although your performance increments are now treated differently. It is confusing but there a really helpful tool if you google ‘nhs pay journey tool’

Ah bugger! I miss understood it then. Thanks NicoAndTheNiners.