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So DS got an an A in Maths and Physics but a D in English - what to make of this?

36 replies

FidgetyFingers · 28/08/2018 19:42

His GCSEs.

Any thoughts?

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Holidayshopping · 28/08/2018 23:01

Presumably it just means he’s either crap at English or hates it and didn’t try very hard.

He just needs to resit it.

argumentativefeminist · 28/08/2018 23:07

What it tells you overall is that he needs to pull his finger out big time if he wants to do A Levels. Resit the English, work on organisation and self motivation skills.

(As a young something who didn't do A Levels that long ago, though, I do think a lot of posters on MN are too harsh about their teens phones. Most of his whole social life is on there, I couldn't trust someone again if they even threatened to throw my phone out a window. It's his responsibility to learn how to manage his phone/online time, but I think that only comes from him as he gains emotional maturity, not from rules or sanctions.)

SummerbodyIwish · 28/08/2018 23:09

Dyslexia? As a teacher at sixth form we see this sometimes

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Madein1995 · 28/08/2018 23:17

People have different strengths. I was fab at English, history, re, 'wordy' subjexts. Loathed and detested maths and science, was in bottom set where incidentally teachers spent more time dealing with trouble makers than helping.

Scraped a c in science gcse eventually. Resat maths 7 times between yr11 and last year of uni, ranging from an f to a c at my final attempt. It wasn't laziness, I just couldn't get it, My brain doesn't work that way

Everyone has strengths. Perfectly normal for someone to be fab at maths and science and struggle with English, and vice versa. I'd advice resitting for a c (always good to have, and at a d he's not far off) but other than that, don't worry

Naty1 · 28/08/2018 23:18

No dont do diploma, that would likely be more writing.
I would say though that gcse maths/science vs alevel can be very different. But then i guess if he can get As with no effort.
I am certainly better at scienve than writing.
Maybe like me he is ok using computers and rewording things but bad under exam conditions.
Also i find the inference or whatever on conprehension often not clear.

DeathyMcDeathStarFace · 29/08/2018 01:20

My ds1 (17) did his GCSEs last year, got As, Bs and Cs, distinction in IT etc. 7 in Maths. English, he got a 3. This was not a surprise as he is autistic, he hates and doesn't understand English. Subjects like Maths, Science, Computer based ones etc. are his forte.

(When I was at school if you got a lower grade than a 'C' in GCSE English or Maths you couldn't start A Levels, you had to re-sit the appropriate GCSE and do something other than A Levels e.g. BTEC. 2 years earlier my dh did do A Levels and English re-sit at the same time though!)

Now ds is doing A Levels without his English GCSE pass grade - Engineering, Physics, Computing, but has had to re-sit the English GCSE at the same time. Got another 3 this year! (The school were just wanting to get him to a 4 rather than a 5 to not have him redo it again.)

School didn't explain how getting lower than a 5 affected ds. A secondary school teacher at church explained it to us! If he wanted to do an English related subject at A Level, he'd have to have a grade 5 or above in English to do it, (or with a Maths related subject needed a 5 or above in Maths). Because ds is not doing a subject that needs English to pass it, he can do the A Levels he wants to.

If it is the same at your ds's school he can do his A Levels as long as he isn't wanting to do ones that he needs the English for. If he decided to go for English A Level I doubt they would let him, but if he does Chemistry, Physics and Maths then it looks like he might have the ability to pass them going off his GCSE grades in them.

My ds's English GCSE 3 grade is not affecting his A Levels, but it could affect him if he wants to go to university. If ds wants to go to college or university then they will look at his GCSE (particularly English and Maths) grades as well as his A Level grades. Prospective employers will also look at them, so school would like him to improve his English for that reason, but not for his A Levels. Thankfully for ds I have been informed many universities will take into account the fact he is autistic when looking at his English grade if he doesn't manage to get a level 5 next year, school would be happy with a 4 and universities will weigh everything up in accordance with his autism.

Getting a lower English grade than expected does not mean your ds will automatically fail A Level maths/sciences, so don't write them off too soon. It might be worth talking to school to get their opinion on whether or not he should do A Levels or a different course. It might be possible to do a year of A Levels and change to a different course then if it looks like it wasn't the right thing for him (dependent on what the school offers and what is needed to be taught for each course and when.)

My ds thought he had done better in his English re-sit, but wasn't sure about the second paper, turned out he was right to be unsure about that paper! Your ds might have not put in enough work/effort for his English exams, there might have been 'the wrong' questions for him on these papers - different questions and he might have done better, there could be other reasons he got a 3, but don't discount him doing A Levels in other subjects because of this. Get his opinion on what he wants to do, talk to school, talk to other people who know about these things before changing what he will do next year.

Of course, getting him to do the work is another matter altogether!

Also, pity me - ds1 is sitting his final A Levels this coming school year and ds2 is sitting his GCSEs at the same time, this will be fun!

(Sorry for rambling on, I'm not a very concise person and wanted to put as much info in as I could, kudos to you if you got even half way, never mind all the way to the end.)

Enko · 29/08/2018 01:46

Can he get into his A levels of chose with a D in English? So many students where we are have been told no your English/Biology/Math is not good enough to take x..

trinity0097 · 29/08/2018 05:37

What courses did he actually do? As standard GCSE Subjects were not awarded grades this year.

bringbacksideburns · 29/08/2018 09:21

Bringbacksideburns has your son been tested for Dyscalculia he sounds like me.

Yes. Apparently he hasn't got it. I'm sure he must be on the borderline though. He worked for that resit and said he felt confident. They moved the grade pass rate - he got enough marks to have passed it last year - Sod's law.
I struggled and hated maths with a passion and have an English degree.

OP - did you say he is in the top set for English too? Then clearly he has the aptitude but just didnt put the work / revision in maybe?

chocolateworshipper · 29/08/2018 09:32

You will obviously need to check what the requirements are for his A levels. You could also check with your local college whether they are offering Functional Skills English. Some people find FS easier than GCSE and it is still a level 2 qualification (so same level as GCSE). Our local college are offering it as a 12 week intensive evening course, with the exam at the end.

TeenTimesTwo · 29/08/2018 09:34

I would say start the A levels and resit English (he has no choice).
Give dire warnings that he won't be allowed to continue to the second year if he doesn't work.
If he doesn't work and can't continue he can switch to a BTEC Extended Diploma then for 2 years (there is 3 years funding available).
Give him the extra year to prove himself / mature.

Go onto the Education boards to find more support. They aren't all full of people with straight 9s. Smile

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