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What's the point of baby signing?

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Mymadworld · 21/08/2018 09:06

Not meaning this as a goady thread for those in favour, but I really don't get why you would invest time learning & teaching your baby to sign instead of talk?

I'm a cm and one of my parents uses signing at home and keeps asking what new signs DS has done today whereas I'm more focused on speaking, the sounds & words forming. Presumably there's a good solid case for baby signing and enhancing communication so can anyone enlighten me please. (And maybe suggestions for a few basic ones to learn if it really is helpful?)

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BlueBug45 · 21/08/2018 09:12

My OH's daughter can't hear certain frequencies and it's worse in winter when she has a cold as her ears get blocked. Baby signing was and is just a method to allow her to communicate without her getting frustrated and screaming the place down. I've had problems with blocked ears as an adult due to illness and can understand her frustration in not being able to hear, but as an adult in a senior position in the working world I can use the written word to communicate as an alternative there as a baby/small child can't.

sashh · 21/08/2018 09:12

Because children's hands are able to make signs before they can articulate the words. So you can have a conversation during the 'terrible twos' rather than just a tantrum because the two year old is frustrated.

It's possible that a child has 200 signs at the time they have about 50 words.

Smurf123 · 21/08/2018 09:17

Baby sign is always to be used with words and speech not instead of.
For some children the visual gives them more time to process what is being said and can be easier for them. They pick up the signs earlier than they can say the words so can reduce frustration at them not being understood. Also hugely beneficial for anyone with hearing or speech difficulties as they can see / use the sign.

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Winegumaddict · 21/08/2018 09:22

It's also a good base my DD has a friend who has speech delay so by signing we can all talk together. It makes it more inclusive for children who can't hear or speak as well. As the friend can hear we always use words and signs. I think it can only be a good thing the more people who can sign the better. Even if it's basic sign language you could help someone find something or direct them if needed even if I couldn't hold a full conversation.

anotherangel2 · 21/08/2018 09:28

As above children are physically able to sign and therefore able to communicate their needs before they are physically able to speak.

Bilingual children often have more advanced speach and processing so signing may inprove speach and understanding.

I signed with DD and at 2 now she occasionally only uses the sign for where out of habit but her speach is very advanced for her age. Obviously there is no way of knowing if signing impacted on this but it did make life much easier before she was confident speaking.

anotherangel2 · 21/08/2018 09:29

Winegumaddict most child sign using mackaton but adults use BSL which is a different language.

anotherangel2 · 21/08/2018 09:32

OP you will need to check which type of sign language your charge uses.

In the early days we used please/thank you, milk, drink, food, where, nappy, biscuit, swing and loads of animals signs.

ChipmunksAreMissing · 21/08/2018 09:37

I signed with my DD as I'm a special needs teacher and used it every day in my role anyway. DD was an incredibly early talker and didn't really go through the terrible twos stage. I think this was because she didn't get frustrated with me and could tell me what she needed.
I didn't teach DD2 to sign as I had changed role and she is definitely a more stroppy Miss!

Mammyofasuperbaby · 21/08/2018 09:37

My son is 2 and can hardly say an understandable word. We are teaching him Makaton so he can talk to us.
I wish we had taught him baby sign earlier because he now has major frustration tantrums that are getting increasingly violent as he can't express himself even though he is very bright

Winegumaddict · 21/08/2018 09:38

Anotherangel2 I know but it's a start and adults with learning delays still use Makaton. It's not going to mean you can talk to everyone but surely anything is better than nothing.

EyeRolls · 21/08/2018 09:41

I did signing with all of mine as babies- see it as an aid, not a replacement for speech. They are used in conjunction with each other.

I had many MIL comments about the fact that they wouldn't be speaking if I let them be 'lazy' by using sign- utter tosh as they were all and continue to be excellent communicators verbally.

bananamonkey · 21/08/2018 09:52

My DD signed way before she could talk so it was helpful to us and she's now speaking in short sentences at almost 2 so don't think it's hindered her speech. She could communicate some basic things and I could tell her what we were going to do next (more, yes, no, food, drink, bath, toys, book, nappy, Mummy, Daddy, home, car, animals etc.).

You always say the word as well as signing at the same time so they learn both. We went to a class but there's lots of signing videos on YouTube and we had a book from the children's library of baby signs.

c190 · 21/08/2018 09:54

I have done signing with both my children. Both of them are way ahead of their non-signing peers with their vocabulary (and eldest is 8).

Baby signing has many benefits. Babies can communicate much earlier because they can make hand shapes much more easily than forming word sounds. As a result, they have fewer tantrums etc which are borne out of a frustration at not being understood (plenty later on when they know you understand them and are saying no though!). When they are tiny, it starts them understanding that these weird sounds you make actually have a meaning, and it instils the fundamental basis to understanding that people communicate, and that they will be able to communicate too.

Signing actually helps their speech development, as it causes you to slow down when you are speaking to them (as you sign simultaneously), therefore enunciating much more clearly and showing the shape your mouth makes in forming those words. It emphasises the key points of the sentence, helping them to understand what you are saying. When my daughter was little, the way she said "milk" and the way she said "more" sounded the same. Because she signed as well, I understood what she was saying, but I was also able to repeat the word back to her to help her learn how to say it correctly.

I used to spend a lot of time playing with them using soft blocks etc with different animals on. I'd point to different animals and sign them. As they got older we had a game where I'd ask them to find certain animals and they would. They would then ask me where the pig was so that I could find it too. They learnt interactive play that way.

Nothing came a s a surprise to them. If we were playing and then it was going to be bath time, I would tell them that we were going to tidy up and then have a bath. They learn about timelines (in a very rudimentary way obviously) this way, can anticipate when events are going to happen. It must be difficult for a small baby to understand why one minute it is playing and the next it is being stripped off and put in some water with no warning! Signs for nappy changing etc were very good when it came to potty training - they were both able to tell me they needed the nappy change (if I hadn't worked it out for myself!), or able to tell me they needed to use the potty later on. They were fairly verbal by this stage anyway, but it helped them make the connection between the feeling of a dirty nappy and what had caused it much earlier.

They are both very good readers, and I attribute some of this to early signing. As we were reading books they would point to pictures and sign them, or ask what the sign was if they didn't know it.

By the time my daughter was 2, she was able to name many many animals, as well as different types within the group (eg she knew if the bird was a chicken or a penguin etc). She could differentiate between different vehicles (car, plane, motorbike, police car, ambulance, fire engine, lorry, truck, digger etc etc...). She knew all the colours of the rainbow, lots and lots of different foods (including what she did/didn't like!).

It really does have many many benefits. One story I tell to lots of people is when my daughter was about 18 months, maybe younger, she had recently moved into a new room at nursery, and was with lots of children she hadn't been with before. She had an unusual way of signing "more", which was very distinctive. On the way up to the room, there was a whiteboard on the wall which listed the meals they had that day, and how much each child had eaten. She often had x2 next to her name for lunch. Over a couple of weeks, there were gradually more and more children who had x2 next to their names too. And parents asking nursery why there child was doing this strange movement with their hands - it was my daughter's way of saying "more"!

Finally My brother started baby signing with his first child (younger than my first one), but thought he wasn't interested in it and so gave up after a term. I was on holiday with them about 18 moths after this, and my nephew was sitting on the beach, quite deliberately hitting himself on the side of the head. He kept doing it over and over, looking at my brother. My brother told him to stop doing it, but he wouldn't. I told him it was the sign for hat. My brother got the hat, put it on him, and he went off and played happily.

It works. It is very good. If you have the opportunity to do signing with young children then I can't recommend it enough.

This is very long already, and my first post on here (been a lurker for a very long time!0 so I will stop there. But I could go on much more!

sashh · 21/08/2018 09:55

Makaton uses signs from BSL but in English word order. Makaton is a sign system used with English, BSL is a full language with grammar and sign order.

However you can communicate using Makaton or Baby signing, a bit like when you go on holiday and don't speak the language you learn odd words.

In the UK you might ask a bar tender for a drink and use 'please' and 'may I have' and specify bottle or draft or other sentences but on holiday you may just say, 'beer please'.

SnugglySnerd · 21/08/2018 09:55

I've done it with all mine and it's brilliant that they can ask for a drink for instance before they can speak. Cuts down a lot of frustration. They are were all a bit on the early side with speech so it certainly didn't have a negative impact.

CeeCeeEnnEss · 21/08/2018 10:21

I’m so glad I did it with my DD as it has allowed her to communicate so much earlier than if we had just relied on speech. As it is, she’s now 18 months and using full sentences alongside her signing.

NonJeNeRegretteRien · 21/08/2018 10:27

There’s a few YouTube videos to learn from, babysigningmummy is good. Doing nursery rhymes helps... you could do a theme a week if you felt inclined and fancied really getting in to it.

JustlikeDevon · 21/08/2018 10:47

anotherangel Deaf children use BSL not makaton. Makaton is an augmentative communication system, not a language in its own right.

scrivette · 21/08/2018 10:58

Mr Tumble signs, DS has learnt a few from him.

Kaykay06 · 21/08/2018 11:06

My children learned to sign at playgroup and nursery? It’s also used in certain classes, as there are a few children in school who communicate using signs, my sister used it with her babies, I don’t think it’s a bad thing especially if it helps your kids communicate with other kids who sign,

Kattymanners · 21/08/2018 11:09

What’s the point ? ...it’s a communication aid and it works, and takes very little effort for a sceptical person to understand a few basic cues which can make the world of difference to a frustrated toddler . It’s one of those things that until you need to use it you don’t really appreciate its importance to some.

One of my children was slow to develop language skills due to a birth defect. A quiet intense child who struggled to make themselves understood even to me.

I dreaded starting nursery. I could see the stark differences ( I know you shouldn’t compare but you do...) and I was so so relieved and delighted to find an approachable, concerned and enthusiastic nursery who ALL bent over backwards to help my child fit in and give them the confidence they needed. I’m so glad these ladies were proactive enough to give it a go even if they thought it was pointless. They made my child’s early years positive

Please, thank you, milk and nappy are simple signs that you can use alongside your preferred focus of speaking and word formation.

Mymadworld · 21/08/2018 22:58

Fantastic thank you all really insightful replies and I'm learning some of the suggested basics.

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Flobalob · 21/08/2018 23:41

I signed to my two and they were both early speakers. It was fantastic having a 12 month old being able to ask for milk. You say the word as you sign so I believe it improves language.

Turns out my two are autistic and so signing still works really well now sometimes (at age 8 and 9). If they are only seeing distance but not hearing distance they can still understand me.
I have nannied for 3 little ones and have signed with them all. They pick it up within weeks and so made settling in so much easier.
We sign: mummy daddy home thank you milk hot/dangerous cold lots of different animals drink eat home car sharing hello book dirty clean nappy change

Flobalob · 21/08/2018 23:44

Oh and we also sign work and sleep.

Flobalob · 21/08/2018 23:54

I was a cynic when I started doing it with my eldest. What changes my mind was one day she'd had a bottle of milk at about 10 months old. She wasn't due another one for about 3 hours. An hour later she signed "milk". I was really surprised but decided to offer her another bottle and she absolutely wolfed it down. I was stunned! She was never a big eater so was totally unlike her to drink so much milk.

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