Asia Argento

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So over the past few weeks it has come to light that two of Harvey Weinsteins accusers credibility is in question.

There was one whose emails has been released to the authorities and media where she declares her undying love to him and wanting to see him etc and that she does not want to feel like a "booty call".

And then this past week Asia Argento who paid an Actor $380 000 hush money for sexually assaulting when he was 17 years old. She was one of the main instigators of the #Metoo movement.

I am not saying that women have lied about their experiences with this vile man but what I am saying is that it is kind of making a mockery of it if there are women who have lied for their own gain.

Surely it will put into question the case against him if this is all starting to come to light and this man might not pay for what he has done to women in the past.

This is why the response from the likes of McGowan and Arquette sickens me

I’m sure that’s because they believe their friend Asia’s story though, just like countless famous men and women have spoken out in support of abusers like Polanski and Allen. In the case of HW there has never been any doubt that he was an abuser. Particularly in the case of #metoo Arquette and MacGowan must be gutted.

I think Mira Sorvino’s response was good.

Sorvino's response was the right one.
McGowan's was at best ill-advised.
Arquette's were atrocious (she later deleted them).

#MeToo was ALWAYS going to be undermined. Hollywood is a cesspit and actors like Asia Argento are an example as to why the majority of them are not beacons for any movement. Hypocrisy reigns in the film and fashion industry.

These industries are filled to the brim with men and women who use power, manipulation, and abuse as their currency.

Asia Argento is a power-abusing, attention seeking headcase. I remember her as a young actress. Always thought she was egocentric and vile.

ShatnersWig she actually is a name in that she is the daughter and granddaughter of renowned Italian directors and screenwriters. She’s from an ‘industry’ family and is very famous in her own country. So she would have a sense of entitlement, I imagine.

I know precisely who she is, but when the alleged abuse took place, she wasn't that well known to the general public as she never made many high profile films. As I put, she was higher up the ladder than Bennett, and having moved into direction, went higher up the ladder again, but she's better known in her own country than she is worldwide. But she's nowhere near on the scale of a name as HW, Kevin Spacey etc

Now Male celebrities are being named and shamed before eventually being found innocent - Ed Westwick lost several roles and his reputation may never recover yet he was ultimately found innocent. Many ordinary men have had lives ruined by rape claims which have turned out to be false.

Ed Westwick was not 'found innocent' there was 'insufficient evidence' to bring forward a prosecution.

The rate of false rape claims is actually very low, and apparently as a man statistically you are more likely to be raped than have a false claim made against you. This 'women cry rape all the time and are out the ruin men' is a misogynistic myth.

As for Asia Argento, she should be prosecuted as per the law, I don't think we need to be 'gentle' here, treat it as any other case. I'm sure the case will be used to prove that 'woman do it too so let's not bother holding men to account for their actions' though.

I hear you Shatners.
Its particularly awful that she came at Bennett from a ‘maternal’ angle. Devious and so manipulative. I suppose it’s no different than men using the ‘father figure’ tactic. Ugh. Just repulsive.

@TheVanguard On the face of what has been seen of her past Twitter feeds etc, it looks suspiciously like grooming, but who is to say? A court, preferably.

A series of texts has been leaked, which if genuine, clearly shows Asia admitting to having sex with Bennett, although she says she didn't know he was a minor at the time (which she ought to having filmed with him when he was a 7-year old). She says "the horny teen jumped me" and said it wasn't rape but she froze. If they are genuine, that contradicts her previous statement that she never had sex with him at all. The oft-mentioned photo of them in bed together has also been leaked and looks fairly cosy.

It's not looking good, although she says in the texts he did try to extort money.

@Shatnerswig oh that is laughable when in the original article it stated that they first acted together when the boy was 7. She was well aware of his age as she often refered to him as one of her boys in her tweets.

She is backpeddling like crazy and should be held in the same regards as any male accused.

You know lets face it men and women in whatever industry will take advantage of their seniority or position. Unfortunately us the general public only hear about half of it if ever at all.

I just think that this situation should be taken just as serious as all the others. For all we know this poor kid/young man could be suffering pts from that incident or whatever mind fuck she had put on him.

Far more women have had their careers destroyed because they spoke out about abuse and harassment, than men for being accused of it.

Absolutely. At a collective level one Asia Argento doesn't mean that sexual violence and harrassment isn't hugely gendered. Yes "women do it too" but nowhere on the same level.

At an individual level, yes if Asia Argento is guilty she should have the book thrown at her.

I’m bewildered as to why Anthony Bourdain allegedly paid the guy about 400 k when he was worth not much more than a million. From what I’ve read, it was a new, whirlwind romance and they didn’t even live together. I’m also wondering about the way it contributed to his mental health

Am I missing something here? The person she had sex with was 17 - over the age of consent in many US states and countries around the world. Does no-one in California (home of rock stars, actors, millionaires) have sex before they are 17? Having sex with someone (male or female) a few months under the age of consent is a completely different issue to ongoing rape, coercion and abuse.

The age of consent in California is 17.

And if you don't understand precisely why this is an issue, you're a bit stupid.

Rita the only reason we do not hear about many male sexual assault victims is due to the fact that most men wont report being sexually assaulted as they are too embarrassed. There was a documentary on the BBC a few months back where it was being discussed. Women can be if not more sexually manipulative and aggressive at times.

As to why I think Anthony Bourdain paid the money. He was probably trying to protect his gf, but it was reported when he passed that their relationship was strained. We will never know why he decided to do what he did the poor man is not here to clarify the reason he paid the money or why he killed himself. I am not going to speculate but yes a lot of people will be pointing the finger that maybe he felt guilty knowing what she did and could not live with himself.

I have to admit I was saddened to read about this because of it's potential damage to the #MeToo movement.
I have to admit I am torn by the likes of Rose M and Asia A and the way they are standing up for it all but have not necessarily liked some of the ways they've gone about it. I also felt that very strongly in the wake of Anthony Bourdain's death and you now start wondering if this was a big element of it...

The age of consent in California is 18, he had just turned 17 and she was 37.

www.thisisinsider.com/tmz-photo-of-asia-argento-in-bed-with-alleged-victim-jimmy-bennett-2018-8

Sorry - cross post there.

Argento stated that she did not know he was only 17 but yet played his mother in The heart is deceitful above all things when he was only 7.

Rita the only reason we do not hear about many male sexual assault victims is due to the fact that most men wont report being sexually assaulted as they are too embarrassed. There was a documentary on the BBC a few months back where it was being discussed. Women can be if not more sexually manipulative and aggressive at times

98% of sexual offences are carried out by men. Your last sentence simply isn't true at anything other than a totally individual level.

If we are talking about men having their careers ruined (or not) by their behaviour, R Kelly had a very successful career after his carry on with Aaliyah, which included him producing the aptly named album 'Age Ain't Nothing But a Number'. Chris Brown's career hasn't been all that harmed by him beating his girlfriend to a pulp.

The Asia Argento allegations should be investigated and prosecutions brought if appropriate. Same as Weinstein, same as anyone else who has been doing this.

I didn’t say it wasn’t “wrong”. She was in a state with a higher age of consent than others. What I’m saying is that it is a whole lot less “wrong” than systematic rape and abuse.

Jesus, if the age on consent in California is 18, then there are a lot of criminals walking around the streets of Hollywood!

Rita the only reason we do not hear about many male sexual assault victims is due to the fact that most men wont report being sexually assaulted as they are too embarrassed.

Because women have it oh so easy when it comes to reporting sexual assault? They're immediately believed, never vilified, never implored to think of the effect their reporting will have on the careers of the alleged rapist?

Surveys show that the % of women who actually report their attackers is tiny so your figure of unreported female-on-male sexual violence would have to be astronomical to bring it anywhere near the same as male-on-female sexual violence.

Women can be if not more sexually manipulative and aggressive at times

Honey, your attitude is part of the fucking problem.