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Can money be 'hidden' in a Pay pal account?

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Peppermintdream · 18/08/2018 19:08

Long story short, I'm appealing to a Cms Tribunal (for the second time) on the grounds of 'additional income' that I believe my ex to have.

I've already proved once before that he is earning extra money (aside from his declared income) as the Financial investigatio unit became involved and found eBay transactions in bank accounts , where ex was buying and selling.
Ex, I assume will have by now made sure transactions go elsewhere in case I appeal again.

Can he use Pay pal as a place to hide his money does anyone know? .. reason I ask is Financial unit never mentioned pay pal before, even though they found ex's other accounts.

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Thebluedog · 18/08/2018 19:09

Yes, you can keep money in a PayPal account

greenlanes · 18/08/2018 19:17

Yes you are under no obligation to transfer it out. But he may have 2 paypal accounts - personal and business (if he is buying and selling).

Peppermintdream · 18/08/2018 19:37

Thank you both. I'm presuming there's no 'upper limit' to the amount he could keep in pay pal?
If the Financial Unit become involved again, I'm not sure how they can go about finding pay pal accounts?

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BarbaraofSevillle · 18/08/2018 20:04

Yes, if he sells things and people pay by PayPal or people give him money by PayPal for whatever reason, he can use that money to buy all manner of things online. He could also use it to buy vouchers for supermarkets, which he could then use to buy petrol or food, without any of that income going anywhere near his bank account.

greenlanes · 18/08/2018 20:15

Paypal is based on email. Do you know all his email accounts?

Also can you search EBAY and see if you can locate his seller ids? eg using postcode

Not sure about upper limits - email them and see what they say. I get emails every so often that tell me i have money in my account. Total excitement for £5-49!

Peppermintdream · 18/08/2018 21:13

I don't know any of his e-mail addresses. Is there a possibility of searching a user's id by their post code do you think?

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flopsyrabbit1 · 18/08/2018 21:15

God another scum bag,hope you nail him op

Peppermintdream · 18/08/2018 21:35

Thanks flopsy

I'll try my best! .... I wouldn't mind getting hardly anything if he was broke, but he lives the high life and doesn't give a crap about our dc.

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Peppermintdream · 19/08/2018 08:50

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thelmalouisewaitforme · 19/08/2018 08:52

If you have an idea of the type of thing he is selling then you can search (also check for completed/sold items) and sort my distance from a particular postcode. You might find him that way.

BarbaraofSevillle · 19/08/2018 08:53

Have you included examples of 'lifestyle not compatible with stated means' in your appeal?

If someone has a nice house, nice car, holidays, nice clothes, hobbies, etc, it's pretty damn obvious that they have access to more money than NMW or whatever.

notapizzaeater · 19/08/2018 08:54

Presume he's. It de Laredo the eBay ah income to HMRC - if he's buying and selling anything other than his goods he needs to declare it.

Peppermintdream · 19/08/2018 09:14

Thelma, thanks I'll try that as I know what he's buying and selling. He's buying mainly on eBay and selling elsewhere, which is why its difficult to find his id
Barbara,
I don't think they take into account lifestyle inconsistent anymore. Just additional income, which its down to me to prove he's got.
notapizzaeater
He's not declaring this income at all, and a previous Tribunal confirmed this but hmrc don't seem bothered about looking into him.

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Neshoma · 19/08/2018 09:33

Hell, why is it up to you to prove things when CMS presumably have access to all sorts of databases and information.

If he has a few online ebay accounts can you pretend to buy/sell some items and get them sent to a PO box or somewhere he wont suspect its you?

Peppermintdream · 19/08/2018 10:03

Neshoma
That's the crazy way the child support system works.
The onus is always on the resident parent to get proof of their ex's earnings. It should be the other way around, that the non residemt parent should prove they're not earning extra income by showing how they're able to afford xyz with their declared income.

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Peppermintdream · 19/08/2018 10:05

The whole system is a joke!

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Peppermintdream · 20/08/2018 06:53

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