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HB dropping by £60 pw because son has started work ??

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dizzycatdance2 · 13/08/2018 21:46

Hi
Could this be right ? When adult son is working HB will go down by £60 PW ??

Any one got experience of this ? Any examples of the % "lost" when a resident "child" starts work.

Tia

OP posts:

safariboot · 13/08/2018 23:01

"they are expected to pay the contribution of a 25+ year old on an 18 year olds earnings and conditions"

The non-dependant deduction from housing benefit is based on said non-dependant's earnings. Less earning, less contribution expected of them. So you're being just a bit silly.

Jupiter9 · 13/08/2018 23:03

Make him pay £200. Good luck.

safariboot · 13/08/2018 23:05

OP, do check the deduction is correct, especially as £60 isn't on the list given above. If your son's working hours are variable you might need to get some more detailed advice to make sure you get the HB you should.

If you get certain components of DLA or PIP (forgot which), there's no non-dependant deduction.

Frouby · 13/08/2018 23:13

It was the same 22 years ago.

My mum was a single parent to 6 of us. She worked part time and got HB. I dont think it was tax credits back then, think she got hb, ctb and family allowance plus her wages. Possibly income support as well?

Anyway. It was tight. I left college and got a job earning 6k a year. Just short of £450 a month I think I got. It was a good job for an 18 year old at the time in a bank. My bus pass was £8 a week. My mums hb and ct benefit reduced by about £60 per week. And we had said I would pay £30 a week 'board' So was working full time for less in my pocket than what my part time pub job had paid.

I moved in with my auntie instead. Who owned her house. Then saved up with then boyfriend and we bought somewhere 6 months later with a 100% mortgage, all solicitors fees paid AND 5% cashback.

It's awful for you and your son. The government will enforce stuff like this but are incapable of forcing absent fathers to pay for their dcs.

Mbear · 13/08/2018 23:27

I don’t think the reduction is to do with his wages per se - it’s to do with your housing benefit as he is no longer a dependant so HB are not longer required to pay for his room. He could move out and you would still have to find that £60.

flopsyrabbit1 · 13/08/2018 23:35

im always surprised that every August/Sept there is a flurry of people surprised that their benefits halt/decrease when a child leaves fulltime education,then full panic

Babyroobs · 13/08/2018 23:35

On Universal credit there is no reduction in the housing element until a non dependent is 21 which I see as the government going some way to try to address this problem and recognises that young people are often in low pay jobs. It is one of the few good things about UC !! However this makes the non dependant deduction on the old Housing benefit system even worse knowing there is now a two tier system. Op maybe you should get a calculation done by CAB to see if you could be better off on UC - if you have the option to claim that instead ?

flopsyrabbit1 · 13/08/2018 23:37

there was Family Creditbefore tax credit i think

safariboot · 14/08/2018 00:35

HB are not longer required to pay for his room. He could move out and you would still have to find that £60.

To my understanding incorrect. If your son moves out you "may" be liable for the "bedroom tax", which is 14% of the housing benefit for one spare room. In all or nearly all cases that'll be much less than £60. And if there'd be no spare rooms even if he leaves based on the housing benefit room-sharing rules, then you wouldn't even incur that deduction.

Rebecca36 · 14/08/2018 01:40

£60 sounds a lot but when your son is working it's not an unreasonable amount for him to contribute to the household. I assume the Benefits Agency know how much he will be earning and have calculated his contribution fairly.

BitchQueen90 · 14/08/2018 06:51

You're only liable for the bedroom tax if you're in a council property, not if it's private rent.

Although if he moved out, housing benefit would not be obliged to pay you for a 2 bedroom property as a lone person you'd only be entitled to a one bed (unless there are exceptional circumstances).

lazyhazysummer · 14/08/2018 07:16

Rebecca36 It is a lot because working kids need to contribute towards the food and bills in general. If they're paying out £60 towards the rent how can they do that as well. Who wants their child working all week and having to practically cough up their whole wage. It's bloody awful.

Slartybartfast · 14/08/2018 07:19

They ask how much he earns and deduct accordingly.

Slartybartfast · 14/08/2018 07:21

Can you work more hours now he is at work op? To make up the short fall?

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