URGENT can anyone recommend someone legal to look at a draft EHCP?

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I was given the draft Friday. Have been looking through it. We have a charity that helped but all their funding has been cut and no one is able to look at the draft properly for me. My main problem is section F it’s very vague.

Is there any educational solicitors that would just look at a deFt and help me amend it? I can’t afford it but this is all going over my head and I have until next Friday to sort it...

I don’t qualify for legal aid Iv already tried.

Can never get hold of ipsea? Will they look at an ehcp specifically and help me amend it though? Ed psy is on holiday until 30th August so she can’t help!

Hi speaking to an Ed Ph recently they said there was little they could do about working memory - so provision would be limited, and therefor no outcome or targets could be set

I disagree! I think they could do memory games, organizational skills (like keeping diary organizing work ipad techniques etc so memory skills aren't 'needed' as much)

I also think school say they provide X Y and Z and it just doesn't happen - you are right to pin it down to X day for Y time - I would insist on a half term review

My experience with ipsea in the past is they can tell you thT laws etc but won’t go though an ehcp document

He has ‘significant movement difficulty’ according to the OT report? He’s fine on a day to day basis just doesn’t have that great co ordination (catching a ball) and has one hand slightly weaker than the other so his hand writing isn’t really legible plus he’s dyslexic on top of that so writing is a big problem...

Would you be happy for us to help you. Again I am not a professional but I have rewritten my sons EHCP and he is now in specialist provision.

The problem is that the LA EP will be vague on purpose. They won't be able to make any recommendations on placement and will have stock recommendations to put in the report.

You need to ensure that all the needs your son has are listed in B so that provision can be made in F.

I know other parents who have been given advice to ask for it to be finalised and then appeal. Under the Children and Families act it says that once in appeal you should negotiate with the other side on content. Some La's are better at this than others. The issue will be that you need evidence to appeal and ask to be included. For example I began an appeal as no OT provision had been given, just vague 'input'. However I had a report from an indy OT with which to appeal with, and in the end they agreed. But if you don't have anything like that your appeal isn't going to go far.

Can you look at a dyslexia independent assessment? These are sometimes cheaper than independent EP reports.

Oh sorry I didn't read the whole thread .

Try this group.

www.facebook.com/groups/489352661228653/

Can someone please explain what this means in terms of how far behind he is now please...?

Standard score reading 107 percentile 68. Word reading standard score 95 percentile 37. Maths problem solving standard 86 percentile 18. Numeracy 71 percentile 3 andvspelling standard 68 and percentile 2??

Is there not an appendix to the report which explains the centiles and standardised scores?

Nope. I want to know what it means in laments terms. I know he’s behind but I don’t know how far. This isn’t mentioned on the draft at all but mentioned obviously in the OT report. Where should this be written?

Which tests did he do? Should be in the report

How old is he?

He’s 12 and it says the wechsler individual achievement test - third uk edition ? (Wait 111 uk)

So that's when you can go back to ed psych.
Just say the report highlights poor working memory and ask her to clarify what support he needs and how often to help with this.

Working memory though isn't a skill you can teach - it's more one where you need to adjust how you teach, provide info, record info etc.

Imno my monies** there too that's how I was able to give specific advice on getting worded properly

Ed psy is away for the next 3 weeks so I can’t ask her?

Standardised scores are based around the average being 100. Anything between 85 and 115 is considered being in range.
Someone with 85 though may struggle is the rest of their standardise scores are low as they likely don't have a strong skill to use to counteract a weakness.

Anything below 80 is considered poor and below 70 is severe.

My ds spelling is below 70 and has always been despite inputs. He just does not get/hear or something phonic sounds and syllables.

His reading is 85 and although lower end of normal with his asd and lack of inference skills and higher order language it all comes together to make his literacy poor.

Percentiles can be misleading imo. Being 50/60/70 percentile is fine. It's joe blogs average. It means that if you took 100 children the exact same age 50 have weaker skills and 50 stronger or 60/40, 70/30.
There's no reason someone on 50th centile can't learn to the same level as someone on 90th - they may just need to work harder iyswim?
However there's also the possibility that someone on 50th centile will struggle if they have other LD alongside it meaning they can't find an alternative method of learning or have another skill to counteract it.
Likewise someone with a 90th centile score in one area can still have a LD.

Example is: my visual memory is 2< centile. However my audio processing and recall is on 99th! Therefore I can just have it read to me (many computer programmes to do this) and I'm fine.
If my audio memory was also 2< centile I'd have bigger problems!

I've probably confused you more but it's more about how these cognitive tests inform towards a way of learning or a way of teaching skills rather than them being able to predict an academic ability iyswim?

I really do think you need to get back to the EP and ask for clarification.

Just email the la and say you need longer as it's not meeting g legal requirement of specific and quantified currently and you need the professionals to provide information.
Get the mediation certificate in the meantime.

And consider a private EP report if it's financially viable. I've heard of judges not agreeing to parents saying he needs "x y and z" because it's not stated in reports - even though it should be.

I really can’t afford to be paying for any more reports, I have so much debt (mainly resulting from having to stop work before, reports etc around this) is having to prepare for more debt for tribunal. Can I apply for mediation already??

youarenot yes that has confused me

Gandalfbold, that is a bold assertion. Ed psychs do not have stock recommendations in my LA. The confusion may be arising from the fact that EP role is to describe need and LA role is to provide for that described need.

Yes old that’s the problem. County haven’t put many provisions at all. They certainly haven’t add any themselves..

Mencap can’t help

There may not be where you live Birdy but I bet if you compare EP reports round here the provision recommendations are all very similar and I would suggest that it is the same across a lot of La's.

Have emailed educational equality first thing but they haven’t replied and aren’t answering the phone. Any where else I can try?!

The charities can’t help so looks like I will have to pay someone. Mencap did say I can’t apply for mediation yet so that isn’t an option.

Which county are you in? I know a charity who help in Nottinghamshire

I’m Sussex fraggle but thanks. Im getting quite desperate to what to do. It’s really stressing me out.