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What to do about parents in a terrible situation?

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lucysnowe · 22/06/2018 11:28

This is a bit long and complicated, so I'll try and keep it short. Basically mum - bad arthritis, takes no medication, has been housebound for years. Dad - 15 years older, getting exponentially more decrepit and emotionally unstable, forgetting things, etc. Their relationship is terrible - they barely talk to one another, he shouts at her, she moans at him, it's horrible for both of them. They moan to me, I suggest things and offer to help etc, they ignore me, it goes on and on.

Recently mum has been unable to use stairlift to go upstairs so is in bed downstairs. There is a toilet downstairs but no shower/bath. She wees into a jug (!) and pretty much is stuck in bed all day. She says she is looking into getting a carer in (but not to tell Dad). Dad says he is also looking into carers, but for some reason has had no luck (oh and 'don't tell your mother'). Mum needs lots of help getting food, tidying up etc. Dad thinks that she should get help for her arthritis and does everything under duress. I'm not sure if she's getting enough food from him? Meantime the house is getting dirtier and dirtier. I haven't visited for a while (very bad I know) because they put me off, and because it is v. tricky at the moment with the kids (ASD daughter very unsettled right now) but I'm planning to go soon.

Meantime, what can I do? I phoned social services but they need either mum or dad to arrange a referral. I wondered if I could report my mum as a vulnerable person? The thing is, I don't want to dob my dad in. He IS abusive to her but that's because he's 87 and -well - losing it a bit. mumsnet WWYD? Any advice appreciated.

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fleshmarketclose · 22/06/2018 11:34

Can you ask the GP to do a home visit? He can then alert services they need.

stayathomegardener · 22/06/2018 11:59

Oh goodness been there.

You have two choices, wait for a crisis and let professionals help you arrange carers or pull rank, apply for a carers allowance and get someone in maybe just an hour a week.

So difficult.

lucysnowe · 22/06/2018 12:05

hi flesh, the GP has been doing a few home visits, but I don't think he's contacted anyone? mainly because mum is sooo bluddy stubborn. she often refuses to see the nurse.

stay> thanks, has your position been similar? Can I ask how it panned out? thing is, mum and dad have enough money for a carer! - they just refuse to believe they need one. i am just wondering if I name mum as a vulnerable person there will be terrible repercussions.

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Postymalone · 22/06/2018 12:14

If they refuse to help themselves leave Ethel to it.

Postymalone · 22/06/2018 12:14

Leave them to it* apologies

CriticalCondition · 22/06/2018 12:23

Have a look on the Elderly Parents board. Heaps of experienced and wise advice from people who have been or are going through this sort of thing.

Sorry you are having to deal with this. Flowers

stayathomegardener · 22/06/2018 13:36

I'm not sure I'm a great example.

Mum has epilepsy and fluctuating dementia (not Alzheimer's) meaning she can't remember to take her meds or that she has epilepsy. A dangerous combination.

The series of crises encompassed car crashes, emancipation and at one point being found with a smouldering cardigan in the garden.

This was despite repeatedly reporting her to the DVLA, she kept passing the damm tests, lots of emergency dashes down (I'm six hours drive away) and meal delivery's.

Once her epilepsy was diagnosed (massive fit Christmas morning whilst staying with us and a week in hospital) a social services adult social care referral supported my sister and I. They were brilliant!

So driving licence revoked, fuses removed on oven and hob, meals delivered and carers thee times daily.

Positives- Mum is safe, clean and independentish in her own home of 50 years. She LOVES her house, beautiful 16C farmhouse.

Negatives- Mum hates having carers or more specifically hates them having a key. Also laments the loss of her car. Totally blames my sister and I. Regularly rings up to complain, tells me to fuck off and hangs up.

Is that a good outcome? I think it's the best of some pretty rubbish options, she would hate a Care home.

lucysnowe · 22/06/2018 13:59

thanks, will do...

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lucysnowe · 22/06/2018 14:01

that sounds like a good outcome stay, well done for sorting it!

did you mum have to agree to the referral? the sticking point with my dear olds is that they are so STUBBORN and stuck in their own little world - and impervious to anything I say - i really need to get things done kind of 'without their permission', really.

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stayathomegardener · 22/06/2018 14:07

Mum doesn't easily agree to anything Lucy Smile
The thing with adult social care is they are so used to this situation they just negotiate it brilliantly and sensitivity. Mum loved them, wanted to practice her life drawing skills on several of the chaps!

stayathomegardener · 22/06/2018 14:09

I think if your parents don't agree and adult social care consider them to be a danger to themselves then yes they can insist on certain things being put in place.

stayathomegardener · 22/06/2018 14:11

I think your mums washing and loo facilities would trigger concerns for them but in the first instance they would always support any methods to overcome this however unorthodox.

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