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fall out with/ignored by pregnant friend

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ohbigdaddio · 22/03/2018 09:29

Originally posted this on AIBU but hoping that someone might have some advice here!

My original post: I'm My DH and I have been diagnosed with unexplained infertility and are starting our 2nd IVF attempt soon. We have no DC and I have never been pregnant. I am on medication for anxiety and depression – the struggle to conceive has had a huge impact on my self esteem and mental health and I have had suicidal thoughts in my darker moments.

My friend (let's call her Debbie!) lives abroad and for the last week or so has been trying to Skype with me. There is a big time difference and we couldn't find a time when both of us could talk. I thought she wanted to see how I am doing as she knows what we are going through and that my mental health is suffering. I thought that was really nice of Debbie as she hasn't really been overly supportive and on Friday I suggested we talk today. She said texted to say she couldn't wait to talk any longer and said she had something to tell me...then she attached a scan photo and "We're having a baby!!!!!"

I burst into tears but texted back that I was really happy for her. I feel the scan photo was a bit much considering what we are going through and my mental state. Of course she is excited but there was no consideration for my feelings. (A previous friend announced her pregnancy to me by saying "I know this isn't what you want to hear at the moment but I needed to let you know I'm pregnant. I'll tell you as much or as little about it as you want to know." She also did not send a scan photo.)

Debbie is a good friend but I don't think she knows what to say about IVF. I texted her a while ago saying we would be trying again soon and please keep your fingers crossed for us. She read it but said nothing which I found very hurtful. I now know she must have been pregnant when she read that message and feel that should've given her a bit more understanding of how much we want this? I asked her the due date and she started moaning saying it will be really hot in her country by then and how will she cope? That really got to me. 'I don't care! You are pregnant, don't start moaning about it', I thought.

Anyway. We are meant to be having a chat on Skype today and I am really unsure what to do. She is a very enthusiastic, positive person anyway, so this will be magnified by 10 and she will be extremely excited I'm sure. I know the conversation will be mainly about her being pregnant. I am worried I will burst into tears as I am really envious and so sad that yet again it isn't me with the pregnancy news. I am happy for her but very sad for myself. I don't know what to do for the best – I don't want to put off the chat and her think I don't care but at the same time I'm not sure I am ready for a chat about baby clothes etc.

I am due to go to counselling tomorrow and wondered whether it would be better to work through my feelings with her before calling Debbie, but I am aware that she really wants to chat to me today.

Does anyone have any advice as I am very confused. I don't whether saying something like "I am really happy for you but I need you to know that this is really hard for me and I may find it hard to hear lots of details."? If anybody has been in this situation, how did you handle it? And if anyone has been the pregnant friend, would you be offended by a comment like that/what would you want to hear?

After much thought I didn't feel up to our Skype call, so I sent Debbie a text saying something along the lines of : Hi Debbie, I'm so happy for you but as we are struggling and it is so emotional going through IVF, I just need a bit of time. Talking about babies and pregnancies is so tough for me at the moment. Please can we chat when I feel ready? Huge congratulations and lots of love, ohbigdaddio xx

I expected a reply 'sorry to hear this ohbigdaddio' or 'Yes lets chat soon' or something. But I have had no reply at all and don't know what to do. I sent the text 10 days ago on Whats App so can see that she read it. I feel really hurt. Debbie has many friends and family to rejoice in her happy news and I don't understand why she has blanked me. We are now midway through our IVF cycle, the drugs are making me feel low and I can't stop worrying about our friendship.

Most people have told me to just forget it, let her get on with it and focus on me. My counsellor advised getting in touch, saying I hope the pregnancy is going well and that I was disappointed she didn't reply to my message...I don't feel this is the best approach as it seems like it will cause an argument. One friend suggested that I text again and clarify that I didn't mean to offend her but we are at a tricky point in the IVF cycle and I'm finding things hard.

Sorry this is an epic post, I realise my friend may be hurt too but I just can't understand how a woman with the amazing news that she is pregnant cannot put themselves in the place of a woman with infertility who doesn't know if she will ever have a child.

Any advice on WYWD would be much appreciated xx

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Eeeeek2 · 22/03/2018 09:44

My first trip out after a miscarriage resulted in bumping into a family friend. Dh told her and she gave me a hug and said sorry to hear and then with the next breath was showing me scan photos of her family member.

People can be quite dense.

That being said your friend has respected your wishes not to talk at the moment. From her point of view she could feel that you're not being supportive of a major event in her life. There is no right and wrong in either of you being upset, it's not her fault that you are struggling and not your fault that baby/pregnancy are very hard for you.

I'd just let it be at the moment. Maybe in time you can send a message thanking her for understanding that it's hard for you and hoping it's going well for her. Try and get the courage to get a baby card/gift when it arrives.

Hopefully the ivf will be successful and you'll have babies close in age. All the best for the cycle.

ohbigdaddio · 22/03/2018 14:48

Thanks for your reply Eeeeek2

Sorry to hear about your miscarriage.

Maybe in time you can send a message thanking her for understanding that it's hard for you and hoping it's going well for her. My only comment is that I don't know if she is being understanding? I feel she ignored my message...a simple "no worries, let's talk soon" or "yes, that's fine" would demonstrate that she hears how I'm feeling and will chat when I'm feeling up to it. Not responding to my message feels like she's totally ignoring me and my situation and wants nothing to do with it?

Not sure if this is the truth or just how I'm thinking about things at the moment (taking various IVF drugs at the mo which are making me feel pretty low!)

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Eeeeek2 · 22/03/2018 15:44

I'd try to give her the benefit of the doubt. She could be upset at you for wanting nothing to do with her situation.

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Ubercornsdiscoball · 22/03/2018 15:45

You got quite a few replies on the other thread didn’t you? Why repost it?

ohbigdaddio · 22/03/2018 17:48

Hi uberscorndiscoball I guess as 10 days have now passed since I texted her and I'm thinking continuously 'Should I now text her? Or shouldn't I text her?" and this is WWYD, I wanted to see if anyone had any other thoughts. Sorry if this is not the correct etiquette!

I think in truth we are both hurt, however I have told her several times how happy I am for her, whereas she hasn't once acknowledged my situation or said that she understands I am finding things really hard.

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Ubercornsdiscoball · 22/03/2018 18:02

You have said you want to chat when you feel ready. If I got a message like that I would interpret it as ‘back off!’ and wait to hear from my friend again. Your message doesn’t invite a reply of any sort so it needs to be you that makes the first move I feel.

I’m sorry

MyKingdomForBrie · 22/03/2018 18:08

Frankly I think she’s not worth worrying about. She clearly has no empathy to be wanting to enthuse about it all in the first place, it’s not hard to say ‘I’m sorry you’re having such a hard time, we can talk whenever’. I have friends I never mention my pregnancy to because they’re having hard times in different ways with fertility/pregnancy - I want to be a good friend and it’s not bloody hard.

mimibunz · 22/03/2018 18:14

I think it’s just very difficult to have to act like you’re not thrilled about something when you are but at the same time not wanting to hurt someone you care about. You both have a part to play here. And your feelings are not more important than hers. Best wishes for your next IVF round! Flowers

Buglife · 22/03/2018 18:19

I’m sorry trgisnis making you so anxious. I think a message from you saying “Please can we chat when I’m ready” indicated that you didn’t want to talk anymore, and so she probably didn’t reply as she felt you were saying you’d let her know when you could talk... she might feel embarrassed or upset and therefore felt she was best not saying anything? I’d agree that your message spelt out your feelings which is good, but it didn’t invite a reply. Yes she could have said “ok I understand” but perhaps she felt it was safest to say nothing?

AnneLovesGilbert · 22/03/2018 18:29

I agree with others OP that your message was clear that you’d get in touch when you were ready. Which she’s assuming you’ll do.

If I’d received your message I wouldn’t have been sure what to say and worried about getting it wrong when you were already upset.

Wait till you’re ready then drop her a line to see how she’s getting on.

Good luck with your ivf Flowers

And it’s not so much ah etiquette issue, but you could have posted an update on your previous thread and people who’d posted on it would see Smile

ohbigdaddio · 23/03/2018 12:03

Thanks all. Noted for next time AnneLovesGilbert.

I suffer from anxiety and have been on medication for this. I have a very over active imagination and a tendency to think things over and over!

There was a question "Is it ok if we chat when I'm ready?" which I would have thought could have been replied to with "yes, that's ok" or something. Ignoring me makes me feel like I'm in the wrong.

Anyway, I'll try top stop worrying now!

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AnneLovesGilbert · 23/03/2018 14:50

Good luck with everything @ohbigdaddio Flowers

GayAllen · 23/03/2018 14:54

She’s done as you asked and backed off.

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