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MIL & DD Childcare Worries

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PeachQueen · 25/01/2018 09:41

Would really appreciate some advice!

Next week my DD is going to be going to my MIL once a week whilst I am at work. She currently goes to my Mom’s one day a week and was going to nursery twice a week.

Back story so as not to drip feed;
When she was born MIL was very, erm, let’s say over excited about her arrival and very obsessive over her, examples being - taking her off me whilst I was settling her, not agreeing to my breastfeeding as this was my way of isolating DD from her and her friends, wanting to have her on her own all the time and not being in same room as us with her so she could be alone with her….I could go on. It was agreed prior to the birth (despite my worries about it) that she would have her once a week when I went back to work, which of course we were very grateful to her for as its free childcare. However she then fell out with us as she became very jealous when we would see my parents and not her and FIL (her ex) and possessive of DD & telling me she never wanted to see me again and will not answer the phone when she has DD as she doesn’t need checking on (her not DD), also not being happy that we invited her ex husband (DH Dad) to lunch on Fathers Day (I shit you not) we had to make the difficult decision (in terms of it would cause more rift in the family) to send DD to nursery for the 2 days. This caused huge eruptions and her and sil didn’t speak to us for 4 months and accused us of not allowing them to see DD. Which of course is not the case.

Anyway, fast forward to now. She has made great efforts and been to see Doctors regarding her mental health (previous depression & anxiety) and has stopped drinking (which caused the majority of the outbursts) and things have been getting better. For harmonies sake myself and DH have agreed that she can have DD once a week from next week. She has been really excited and bought lots of bits and pieces ready for it.

We invited them over for dinner last night to just chat about it and discuss timings etc & DD routine and her likes and dislikes (food etc), how she likes to be settled – basic things that she wont know about her really as not had her alone for more than a few hours. And she went off on one again saying we worry too much, do we not think she knows what she is doing, she will do her own thing with her, do we not realise she has had children before, looked after her other grandchildren etc., etc. DH said of course we do and its not that we dont think she knows what she is doing with children, we just want to tell her about DD routine – I can’t see what’s wrong with that?

Again she repeated that she will not be answering calls or texts to us if we ring as she does not have her phone with her 24/7 (well yes she does, it is glued to her normally!) – This is what is worrying me! As she has form for being very controlling and has in the past taken other grandchildren abroad and turned her phone off so that my SIL & her DH could not get hold of her for 4 days.

I am feeling really nervous about it – all I want to do is call or text her on DD first day with her to see how she is getting on, same as I do with my Mom as I am generally interested and you know, care about my child?! Am I wrong in wanting to do that? I would not be worrying if it was anyone else, which is why I feel bad, but she has form for being awkward, possessive, and controlling. DH fully supports and agrees with me and has said one chance & if she breaks our trust then DD will not go again. I have visions of turning up to collect her & her not being there and not being able to get hold of her?! She will do it for spite and to then turn round and say what’s your problem. AgghhhH!

WWYD?!

OP posts:
glitterbiscuits · 25/01/2018 12:46

Where would she be doing the childcare? Your place or hers?

I’d set up a nanny cam.

But then I would rather spend the money and go to a childminder or nursery.
Your MIL does not sound nice.

CallYourDadYoureInACult · 25/01/2018 12:54

You need to decide your priorities. Is it to your child, or to keeping the peace in your DH's family?

I presume you know the answer.

She has told you she will not respond when she has your child. She has told you she will not respect your child's needs. Why on earth would you let her have any time alone with your child?

It is YOUR JOB to protect and look after your child!

You sound like a lovely and concerned Mum. Have confidence in your own feelings and fears.

You are the most in tune person with your DD.
You are the last line of defence.
Put your foot down.

MondayTuesdayWednesday · 25/01/2018 13:05

Good Luck OP.

I personally would never have given her a second chance especially not to keep the peace or keep her happy. A child is not there to make someone happy or as some type of reward. I understand that you feel under pressure and I do hope it works out but it sounds like you regret the decision and will not hesitate to put your child back in nursery if you are not happy with your MIL's care.

Where does your husband stand on this? Will he back you should you decide to pull out of the arrangement?

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PeachQueen · 25/01/2018 13:13

MondayTuesdayWednesday

It has taken me a LONG time to come round to thinking about her having her, when it all kicked off I said NO WAY, and my DH agreed with and supported that - we were NC for a few months.

As time has gone on and she has made more of an effort and obviously wants to be part of DD life & things have improved from her side it has eased a little - and obviously I want DH to have a relationship with his DM- I have encouraged him I suppose to be proactive with contacting her. We are so close to my parents and holiday with them each year I suppose I feel it should be like that for him with his...? However he has never been that close so is totally supporting this with me and has told me he knows what 'they' are like and is happy to pull out of the agreement too.

So I have decided I am going to gage her response this weekend & say NO if she doesnt agree to ALL our requirements! DH is in total agreement.

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88mph · 25/01/2018 13:26

My initial thought when I read this was "no, no, no, no!" The thought of having no contact is terrifying, my son has medical problems and so do I. If there was an emergency with either of us I'd need to know whoever was looking after my child is contactable always, you might both be healthy but what if you have an accident and can't get hold of her?

She might have threatened not answering calls as a defence, but you know she's done it with her other GC when they were in a completely different country! Based on that alone I wouldn't be willing to even try for a day.

Midnightpony · 25/01/2018 13:27

Just be careful she doesn't say yes to everything because she knows you want to hear it, while still deciding to do whatever the F she wants. Don't tell her first that you need her agreement or she won't be minding DD. Put your requirements to her first and if she disagrees then that's that.

Furthermore as pps have said, you owe her nothing. I wouldn't be leaving my baby with her. Just because she's your MIL doesn't mean she's entitled to a "go" of the baby

PeachQueen · 30/01/2018 16:48

Hi all

Promised an update.

We went for lunch over the weekend at theirs & we bought up the worries we had - she was actually OK about it - she said she will keep in touch.

I also mentioned the dog as she has a rather large boisterous dog that is kept in the house. Apparently the dog and DD will not be left alone at all.

I dunno, I still feel really anxious about it. Tomorrow will tell!

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Justmuddlingalong · 30/01/2018 20:51

Oh ffs! That's one of the biggest drips I've ever heard.

happilyeverafta · 31/01/2018 11:25

Why do you think it's a drip?

The OP says she'd update and she has, then what's your problem?!

PositivelyPERF · 31/01/2018 11:35

You have no idea what drip is, do you? 😒

PositivelyPERF · 31/01/2018 11:35

Hope it goes well, OP.

HappyLollipop · 31/01/2018 11:43

Wishing you luck OP, your a better woman than me!

MrsJayy · 31/01/2018 11:50

This has made me quite unnerved reading this she took other Gc away without the parents knowledge 😲I get you are trying to include her but she is going to exclude you while she has your Dd I am sure she can look after her fine but the obsessive and posseive behaviour would worry me. I would see how it goes make sure she has your numbers but i cant see you settiling at work thinking about your Dd

Earlyriser84 · 31/01/2018 11:52

She sounds far too unstable.

You'll have no idea what's going on all day and that would be a worry for you. Also, you mention that she has stopped drinking. How could you be sure that that might become an issue again?

It's really really odd behaviour.

No chance. I would probably just tell her that you don't want to upset your DD routine so you will be continuing with nursery instead.

Justmuddlingalong · 31/01/2018 12:33

It is a drip feed. Lots of advice given, mostly ignored by OP, then the update reveals another reason why it doesn't sound like a good idea, just to keep the drama going. So, yes. I do know what a drip feed is. And I stand by my comment.

PaintingOwls · 31/01/2018 12:40

As she has form for being very controlling and has in the past taken other grandchildren abroad and turned her phone off so that my SIL & her DH could not get hold of her for 4 days

She sounds fucking insane and I would not be leaving my child with her unattended.

I had concerns about drinking but people can turn a corner, so I was trying to be open-minded, but this takes the biscuit!

happilyeverafta · 31/01/2018 14:20

My reply was purely about the fact the op had updated, ok so I'm no Mumsnet Pro & don't know all the acronyms!

Sorry!

PeachQueen · 31/01/2018 14:31

Justmuddlingalong

Sorry to dissapoint/annoy you. Yes they have a dog but as I said in my OP I gave as much detail as I could.

MrsJayy
I never said that she took them away without their permission? Sorry if misleading but I reiterated up thread that she had permission and just didnt answer the phone once she had left.

As promised another update

Dropped DD off this morning and she was very cheery (MIL) and said I will send you updates all day - and so far she has done - videos & pics.

I am still nervous/anxious but hopefully she has listened to us (for once!) and it will continue!

Thank you for all your posts - they have ALL helped.

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MrsJayy · 31/01/2018 16:33

Ah ok sorry totally mis read but still.. not answering calls is a bit Hmm

PeachQueen · 01/02/2018 08:59

MrsJayy

Yes I totally agree! That was my main concern.

Yesterday went OK - better than I thought but I cant shake the feeling that she was humouring me!

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PeachQueen · 20/02/2018 11:32

Update for you all, as I know we all love a good update ;) !

So as expected (deep down by me and by all of you lovely MNetters) this arrangement has not worked out!

Bit of a backstory so as not to dripfeed ;) we had DD hair cut in December for the first time. She has a side parting so when her hair is 'done' in the morning sits lovely. All good.

After her first day at MIL I noticed something different and said to DH have you been cutting her hair? He of course hadn't and said it was just the way her hair had fallen, fair enough.

The second time she went I again thought she looked diff when she came home and this time my DM commented on her hair as well.

I just knew deep down that MIL had been cutting her hair, (when we took her for her first haircut she was overly excited about it and asking us to save her a lock so she could put it in her 'treasure box' for DD. She got said hair lock so I thought all was 'ok'.)

So Friday night just gone I get a text out of the blue from MIL asking me something about DD that only me, DH & FIL know (she is separated from FIL). I asked her how she knew and had FIL told her? She went bezerk. Literally telling me I am a psycho, that I am obsessed with HER (erm No no no lol) and that I need to get a grip. I made a joke out of it and said OK OK was just asking you are clearly granny psychic then. She kept on and on at me about this point so I said OK can I ask you a question - have you cut DD hair?

She again went psycho and called me a 'Silly Little Girl' and to go away and leave her alone that she would never do that.

2 hours later she text me telling me she "had cut her hair, infact as her Gran it is her RIGHT to do so and that her husband was there and witnessed it so she has protection and you need to get a life Peachqueen"

DH was fuming so called her immediately and she denied all knowledge and that I was lying to him about it...?!?!

So I immediately booked DD back into Nursery on MIL day and told her that I need to be able to trust her and this shows I cant.

She has now text DH (she loves to text never wants to talk face to face like an adult) saying that I have clearly decided that she is never allowed to SEE DD again and that I have said that DH & I don't want her in our lives. TOTAL bullshit and she has taken me saying that DD isn't going to hers weekly that she is never allowed to see her again.

DH has had enough of her dramatics and wants to go NC.

So there you all go, trust your gut!

OP posts:
DancesWithOtters · 20/02/2018 11:52

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PeachQueen · 20/02/2018 11:57

Danceswithwolves

Oh yes. She has Mental Health issues and has been on & off medication however this is aggravated by alcohol which, up till now she had under control hence me 'relenting' and letting her have DD. Clearly this weekend she has been having too much to drink!

However I do feel she has a personality disorder, she is so hot & cold with me. But, she has been the same with every partner that DH has had - so clearly nobody is good enough and she has major jealousy and control issues...I could go on for hours!

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ClareB83 · 20/02/2018 12:07

I'm glad your DH is onside as she sounds totally ridiculous and DD will be much better off in nursery.

MorelloKisses · 20/02/2018 12:18

can you explain about the 'thing' she text about DD that she shouldn't have/wouldn't have known (that lead to your psychic granny comment) - I'm a bit confused about that part.