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Should I still have to pay for a party that is not what I originally wanted?

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impatientlywaiting14 · 30/09/2014 19:18

So its my partners birthday coming up. As we haven't been able to do much the Past year or so because of money I thought it would be nice to surprise him with a party. His sister usually organizes him a party or meal at her fathers house, although no plans had been spoken of this year so I spoke to his sister about holding him a party there, as most people that attend the party's know where his sisters and fathers house is and its much easier to reach than ours. Also our place is genuinely too small to fit in the usual people that are invited to family party's as its a big family. She said the date I suggested wasn't convenient due to money. I said if it was a case of money I would pay for the party she said no we cant have you do that and said they would put money towards it (which is more than fair). Then she said they didn't really want to have a party on the date suggested as they are having a party three weeks later (which we would be invited to) so they don't want to have a party on the earlier date for his birthday, then there party, as people will get bored.

I said Ok maybe we could combine the two (Just as an idea) so the party for him would be on the same day as there party already planned if that was better. She said ok, yh we could, I could make him a themed cake that fits in with the party were having (she usually does make him a cake and had planned to make him a cake for earlier in the month but it clashed with another commitment so i thought it was her way of still getting make him his cake). She said about not having birthday decorations though as the themed decorations will already be up. Then asked who would I like to invite and reminded me her Father doesn't like people coming into the house he doesn't know (which is fair enough) and to invite people she gets on with. She doesn't like some of mine and my partners mutual friends for one reason or another and the tone in which she said it made me feel that was also meant as a reminder. I thought to save an atmosphere just to stick to the usual family members/friends of family and named the people I would like to invite (which are the same people that are attending the party that is already planned). She then added on more people to the Guest list of people going which was fine by me as it was originally there party. I thought of two people after I spoke to her but waited to hear back regarding it being OK to combine the two party's.

Her father said it was fine. I had had an idea of a theme which I know my partner would love and spent a day or so looking up the theme and getting resources for where I could find the stuff. Any additional decorations/items i planned to pay for as they were not going to originally be part of the party. I also thought to make some cakes and cookies to fit in with the theme of the party for the children attending (which I also planned to make). I spoke to his father and he said it was all a good idea and said speak to the sister. She was busy though so I said id speak to her another time she said well what did you want to talk about i just said i wanted to get an idea of what im doing as once im payed im not payed again till the day of the party she said well put money aside. i was trying to politely find out how much im expected to contribute and she said about putting about 100 in.

I was surprised as aside from the two extra people I have invited (which are family members and sister said was expected anyway) the people that are going are the same people that were going to the party that was already being planned. The decorations that are being used are the ones that were already being used. It wont be any of the ideas I had as i spoke to her about it all she didn't seem too keen and the ideas I wanted to do would have meant for more work for her. I offered to come over to help get ready for the party she said no. I offered to make the cakes and cookies, she said I wasn't planning on doing anything like that and i said as it was my idea i would be happy to make them. She said no leave that to me. which is again leaving more work for her to do which will mean her getting stressed. So there is no point in doing the cakes or things i planned. From what I can understand, aside from the cake she offered to make, it wont resemble a birthday party, that will just be added in on the invites.

I have had an unexpected expense come up since then and spoke to her and politely said i would save the ideas for the theme for another party when I have the money to go ahead and do it properly and to just leave it as it is as she was originally having the party that date. she is still treating it as a joint party and expects to me put in a fair bit of money. I don't mean to sound mean or tight as I have no problem at all contributing to a party that is a joint party. But as i said i have only ended up inviting two additional people (to keep her and the father happy )to the party that was is going ahead in the same fashion and was going ahead before i suggested a party . Am I missing something?. I'm thinking to say to leave it as the original party that they were having as except for the cake it would be no different. But i feel now although i have had other financial things come up if i don't contribute i will just piss her off and cause an atmosphere for my partner. So im thinking just to pay to keep the peace. WWYD???

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Letthemtalk · 30/09/2014 19:21

Sorry but that all sounds much too complicated for me. Assuming your partner is over 12 I wouldn't bother with a party at all, nice meal or for the 2 of you?

impatientlywaiting14 · 30/09/2014 19:28

(Just wanted to add the theme I picked would have tied in perfectly with there theme. I just feel i shouldn't have to still contribute a large amount to the party if i could not really have a say on the people that would want to come and celebrate with partner or contribute any ideas to make it special for him and not just based around there party theme)

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impatientlywaiting14 · 30/09/2014 19:30

HI Letthemtalk

Yes sorry I know it is. At the time the meal wasn't an option. I wont suggest a party in future, learnt my lesson!! XX

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BaffledSomeMore · 30/09/2014 19:35

Ok this is lessons learnt time.
You offered a contribution but didn't specify what you wanted it to be for.
You didn't agree an amount.

Are they better off than you? Maybe she thinks 100 is reasonable.

Either way you either pull out which will cause grumbling, awkwardness and bad feeling or you pay up and write it off.

Can you say ok that's fine but can I pay you in 2 parts?

Didactylos · 30/09/2014 19:48

its not really a joint party though is it - since your partner wont really be a focus of the celebrations or have any of their friends there

impatientlywaiting14 · 30/09/2014 19:55

Hi baffledSomeMore

Thank-you for your reply. No I wouldn't say they are better off than me. Only just before the party (that was already being planned) was mentioned she was saying how short of money they would be and wouldn't have the money to hold a separate party which is why i offered to pay as i thought i was asking them to agree to a party on a completely separate date.

This was not convenient so i suggested a joint party on the day they were already holding a party so as not to cause extra cost and fuss. I thought i would be able to contribute ideas and invite some people that know and love my partner but it did not work out this way. x

It has been said again since the initial conversation, while talking about the party, how short of money they will be. As you said pulling out will just cause aggro. I will just pay and write it off for my partners sake (who is unaware of all this). I don't think i can offer pay in two parts as im pretty sure the money will be needed beforehand.

Thanks again for your reply XXX

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WeAreEternal · 30/09/2014 20:00

Just tell her you've decided to have your own birthday party as you want to invite friends that she isn't happy with having at her party.

You could easily organise a meal at a local restaurant, book a big table, invite everyone you want and just say that everyone can pay for themselves, put the £100 you were going to give SIL towards several bottles of wine for the table and a nice cake and maybe a few balloons.
It's easy and cheaper than a party at home and everyone will still have a nice time.

impatientlywaiting14 · 30/09/2014 20:01

Didactylos

You hit the nail on the head. I wouldn't mind at all but it seems its just going to be the party they were already having with the same amount of drink and food they would be consuming, as none of the people i really wanted to invite are coming. The ideas i had wanted to contribute, with the money, are not being used and it wont seem like a party thats special for him too XX

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Itsfab · 30/09/2014 20:06

It seems obvious to me she doesn't want a joint party so I would cancel and just celebrate with your partner.

TheBuskersDog · 30/09/2014 20:08

What is the original party in aid off and what is the theme?

coolaschmoola · 30/09/2014 20:15

Tell her.

impatientlywaiting14 · 30/09/2014 21:04

HI WeAreEternal

That's a good idea, its just facing the backlash now. I really wish I would have just kept quiet as if i was to back out she will get pissed off which will cause problems for my partner.

Thank-you for you reply XXX

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impatientlywaiting14 · 30/09/2014 21:10

Itsfab

Yes I thought maybe it was just her being particular but I think you are right and she doesn't want a joint party, As she has mentioned money and the lack of it it quite a bit. Or did you mean regarding her not wanting to go along with some of my ideas, inviting certain friends ect?

xx

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WeAreEternal · 30/09/2014 23:42

I always say if in doubt blame your DH.

Tell SIL that he has told you he doesn't want a party, just a 'quite meal' with everyone inc' the friends she doesn't want there.

Then it's not about you, the money, her rubbish joint party or anything else, it's just about what your DH wants to do for his birthday.
Blame it all on him.
You could even say that since you know she didn't want those friends at the party and your DH really wants them there maybe it's better for you to go for the meal, make it seem like you are trying to do it to be nice to her.

impatientlywaiting14 · 01/10/2014 12:57

Thanks for replying again WeAreEternal

I just realized I forgot to include the crucial part that its a SURPRISE party so its difficult to get around this, as (obviously) partner knows nothing of all this. You are right though regarding the meal, he would prefer that and at least there isn't any need for approval for who we can invite. The reason I thought of the idea of a party is that a lot of our friends are having a rough patch with money so i didn't mind having the party and paying for/towards it so then the only cost for the people attending would maybe a bottle of nice wine or similar. They also have children so thought a party was better all around.

I wouldn't feel right throwing him under the bus when I was the one that had the bright idea. I think I will just come up with the money to save any bad feeling as my partner would get the brunt of it most probably.

Thank-you again for your advice it is appreciated XXX

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