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Failed practical driving test for stopping at a busy flashing amber crossing

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spg · 25/09/2014 16:47

Hello,

Really need some advice please

I took my practical test yesterday. And the examiner failed me for stopping at a pedestrian crossing. It was a Light controlled crossing and it was flashing amber and there were lots of people about to cross and there was this woman with a pram who looked as if she has stepped out.. "The traffic from the oppposite side remained stationery too*..
Am sure they were thinking the same thing that I was thinking, that this woman was crossiing and it was still flashing amber.. t
I had jusst exited a mini roundabout and the traffic was crawling anyway..
so, it wasn't as if I slammed the brakes for the flashing amber or anything like that at all..

And indeed, the woman crossed and so were others.

The examiner quoted highway code and said flashing amber means that I should have gone. have just checked the same and it says "if the amber lights are flashing and there are no pedestrians on the crossing, you may proceed with caution"

And I was doing exactly that. On a practical note, for such a situation isn't it safer to interpret the "proceed with caution" part of it rather than rushing to pass ? I feel that I will be inclined to do the same thing of stopping if I were in a similar situation.

I had only 3 faults totally; the other 2 were minors.

This is my 5th attempt and I can't tell you how shattered I am to have failed it on the 5th attempt on something like this. I spent most of yesterday crying. So much hinges on this. We are spending 36 pounds on taxi everyday to ferry my daughter to and from nursery. There is no public transport; we were hoping to move to that area etc, Long story. I work part time and it doesn't even break even, at this rate of expenditure.

I really feel that I ought to appeal this decision if at all here is some procedure to do it.

What will you do ?

To give some context , the same examiner has examined me 3 of the 5 times(1,4,5). He recognised me and even my car this time. THe first time, he asked me what I do for a living and what my "Dr" title stands for and when I said I have a doctorate and that I do research, he said "Maybe you have studied too much , spent too much time studying, but your driving isn't simply flowing"

At that time (6 months back), I took it in my stride and though I though it was none of his business to remark about my occupation having an impact on my driving, I decided to ignore it.

BUt, this time, I am furious at the way he has failed me.
And more importantly, I am scared that the next time around, I will get him again and he might do something similar. I don't want to take it in another centre as I have practised a lot in that area and the test routes there.

Please, please, share your thoughts

OP posts:
Iggly · 25/09/2014 16:58

I would use another test centre. You need to be able to drive anywhere and it wouldn't take long to learn the routes. I only did the route on mine towards the end of my learning.

Or just book another test quickly job done. It sounds like you're nearly there.

thatstoast · 25/09/2014 17:10

What section did he fail you under? It doesn't seem like it was a serious fault based on how you've described it. Or did you have 3 minors in the same section?

sanfairyanne · 25/09/2014 17:11

i just posted on your other thread

what i would do is
keep practising
become more confident
understand the traffic light rules

it sounds like you lacked confidence so stopped, causing pedestrians to try their luck and cross on a flashing green man. this is dangerous for them as they will not have enough time to reach the other side before lights change to green for cars. an approaching car might then not see them, assuming green light for traffic, and squish them

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sanfairyanne · 25/09/2014 17:13

*if i have understood your op correctly

spg · 25/09/2014 20:59

thatstoast, He classified it as "serious". Hence the faiil.

sanfairyanne,
Well, it used to be the case that I lacked confidence. But, I have practised a lot and now do feel quite sure of what I am doing. In this test scenario here, I was being really aware of it and in fact when the woman crossed in front of me, I told myself "Good heavens that I decided to stop, this guy would have failed me otherwise" and thought of the other side traffic waiting too. So, it is a bit of ironic in a way, that I failed because of that.
However, I can't stop thinking that the examiner could have failed me if I had gone through as well. He could have still said: well, the pram was on the crossing, a lady with a pram is a vulnerable road user. so you have to interpret the "proceed with caution" with heavy emphasis on the caution bit. And he could have cited the other side traffic waiting in support of the case.

Anyway,
Have just decided to take it again; Looks like appealing won't really do anything to the decision; So, no point.

Thanks for all your replies.

OP posts:
thatstoast · 26/09/2014 13:35

Ok thanks for clarifying. It's just if you have 3 minors in the same section that becomes serious if you see what I mean. So it's not the fact that you stopped on that one occasion but were having issues with, say, pedestrian crossings, in general.

Fingers crossed for next time. Have you decided whether to go back to the same centre?

SuchSweetSorrow · 26/09/2014 13:44

It doesn't sound like you're in the wrong to me? You were mindful of pedestrians and acted accordingly. The Highway code seems to fit with this surely?

I would look into appealing

BeeRayKay · 05/10/2014 21:27

Did you cause another car to slow down or alter its path?
Did you check your rear view mirror in order to determine that you had sufficient time to stop without causing the other road users to slow down harshly?

Minerves · 11/10/2014 03:01

Yeah, Just take the test again much less hassle than appealing!

eurochick · 11/10/2014 03:07

I agree with sanfairyann's interpretation. Unless pram lady was actually on the crossing, you should have gone through, cautiously, based on your description.

I'm sorry you have failed. It sounds like you are really close. You should get it next time.

SoonToBeSix · 11/10/2014 03:24

Proceed with caution means carry on driving whilst taking care. You didn't you stopped hence the fail. Sorry but I agree with the examiner. You most likely confused the pedestrians and encouraged them to take a chance.

GloriousGloria · 11/10/2014 04:27

Book a different test centre

Examiners are assigned to test centres so you won't get him at a different one and having a different examiner will probably improve your confidence.

SavoyCabbage · 11/10/2014 04:34

I agree with Sanfairy too. And I would book it at another centre for a fresh start. You'll get there.

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