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Neighbours shouting at kids

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worrywort4 · 01/09/2014 17:00

Ok folks, just looking for a bit of input/advice here, as I don't know if I'm being overly sensitive or whether I'm right to be irritated. This is my first post, so hopefully I'm in the right place.

I'll also preface this by saying that myself & DH don't have any children of our own (yet!), so my only experience of a home life with kids is basically my own childhood. I've lived next to a family since then, but the only noise they really made was from DIY and piano lessons on a Saturday morning, so a bit annoying, but bearable. However, I thought I could really do with some perspective on this, so any help is appreciated.

We bought and moved into our first house in the middle of July. It's an end back-to-back terrace, so we have neighbours on one side and at the back.

The people in the house at the back are a family - parents and two kids, a boy and a girl. I don't know how old they are but they're certainly primary age (although the boy could only just be). I understand that living next to a family in a terraced house, there's going to be normal day to day noise. Kids playing, squealing, stomping on stairs a bit; that kind of thing I can deal with. What I can't deal with is the shouting.

Basically, pretty much every morning, the mum finds some reason to scream at the kids. The first week or so we were in the house, the kids were still at school, and every single morning from about 7 until 8:30ish she was screaming at the kids to get up, screaming at them to get dressed, that she couldn't help them unless they helped her to. One day I heard her just scream wordlessly (like in frustration, it seemed). The houses are over three floors and I think the little girl is in the attic, and she seemed to just be coming up the stairs and yelling from the middle floor landing.

Over the school holidays it's not been as bad (weekends still are - obviously kids just get up when they're awake, so we usually hear them from about 7:30. I can deal with that as I know that's just normal, although she does still shout at the boy from time to time on a weekend).

I've been dreading school starting again as I know it'll be the same. This morning I didn't hear her shouting them up, but I did hear her shouting at the boy at about 8:15 - "WHAAAAAATTTTT - STOP GOING ON ABOUT IT - I'M SO P**D OFF WITH YOU ALREADY - GET OUT OF THE ROOM", although it mostly died down after that.

My issue with it is that it's just SO LOUD. When she shouts, she might as well be in the same room as us. It's terrifying! We start work a little later than most people so although we don't expect to lounge around all morning, we don't usually get up til 7:30ish (well, I do, DH gets up a little later). It means that when she does start screaming, one (or both) of us is still sleeping, or we've only just woken up, and it's so jarring to experience. It's making me feel sick; my heart starts pounding and I feel like I need to vomit every time it happens (I know that sounds dramatic, but it's true). I've started struggling to sleep in anticipation of it. (Plus last night they were faffing around at like half 11 trying to get school uniforms dry using what sounded like a hairdryer.) I'm so tired today from tossing and turning til 4 just from being so anxious.

My take on it is that she's struggling to cope; she seems to snap quite quickly and escalate into screaming. I've heard her trying to use time outs, counting to 5 etc, and it just doesn't seem to work, so I don't blame her for being frustrated. But I can't carry on like this, and DH & I both feel that if it continues over the next few weeks we're going to have to say something. The problem is, how on earth do we do it? We haven't spoken to any of them at all (although have seen them getting in their car, seen kids playing in the garden etc). We were thinking of going round and introducing ourselves, but obviously it'd be a bit harsh to go round all friendly and then a few days later tell them to shut up. If she is struggling I'd like to offer help, but I don't know how to do it without sounding condescending or like I know better, because I'm not a parent, so what do I know? I just feel like this kind of behaviour isn't normal (although if anyone else thinks otherwise, I'm sure you'll say!).

Any help, thoughts, ideas etc would be massively appreciated as I'm at my wits end with this, and I really don't know what to do.

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DownByTheRiverside · 01/09/2014 17:04

I used to live in a mid terraced house with very thin walls, and I know exactly what you mean. It was relentless, and I never felt able to say anything because I was a teacher and a Southerner and whatever I did would have pissed her off and not changed anything for the better.
I have no solution, we just learned to sleep through the racket from both sides, including when we had babies. I hope you find a way through it.
We moved house. Smile

amyhamster · 01/09/2014 17:05

I'm so sorry but given the state of anxiety you're in I think the best solution for you personally is to move
If you mention it I think you'll feel more anxious if there's an atmosphere
It just seems a horrid way to live being on edge all the time
I know people will come on & say why should you move but for your sake I definitely would if it's at all possible

worrywort4 · 01/09/2014 17:09

Honestly, if we could move, I would! We've only been here since July and as we bought it it's just not an option at the moment unfortunately. We just couldn't afford to move.

We are hoping to try for a baby over the next year or so, so I kind of feel that if we did go and say anything they'd only retaliate if we had baby noise!

On the plus side, we're not planning on being here forever, and there have also been a couple of other issues with the house (prev owners left us with fleas, which is nice). I've managed to get DH to agree that if we're not settled in a year then we'll move.

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DownByTheRiverside · 01/09/2014 17:16

On the plus side, may your baby be as bomb-proof as ours both were, they slept through anything from around 3 months old.

SeriouslyYouSaidWHAT · 02/09/2014 23:00

WorryWort4 - sorry to hear your new home is not the peaceful place you hoped. Unfortunately, there is no quick fix, unless you are willing to replace the existing plasterboard on the party wall with a high density acoustic insulation and new plasterboard. However do not give up hope. Have you made any contact with the noisy neighbours? There is www.noisyneighbours.net/approaching-noisy-neighbours/ which has a standard letter you can adapt to send. Keep a diary of the noise, noting the time of a disturbance, its length, and its nature. If the letter does not embarrass the neighbour to take a quieter approach, talk to the local council, showing them your letter and diary. Your local council have to take reasonable steps to investigate the noise. They are able to record the noise levels from your neighbours in your house, issue noise abatement orders and on the spot fines, if these are not adhered too.
Whatever you do, I wish you luck. I have been in your situation and understand.

NewEraNewMindset · 02/09/2014 23:07

Wax earplugs available from Boots. They block out everything beautifully Grin

Branleuse · 02/09/2014 23:11

is there any way of soundproofing?

Saidie008 · 04/09/2014 13:17

Years ago, we used to live in a house like that. The couple next door loved their drink and after all the fighting and screaming let's just say their making up was ahem.......well rather embarassing. I'd put Def Leppard on full blast and put the speakers against the wall. The noise levels would go down considerably whenever I did that. Saying that, my then baby slept through it all. Now as a teen, he can still sleep through an earthquake. :):)

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