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Crèche staff lost my DD!

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PookBob · 28/09/2013 09:11

My DS3 and DD1 attended a crèche run by our local children's centre yesterday, while I was on a course.

At the end of the course I went into the crèche room to pick them up. DS was sat playing but I couldn't see DD anywhere. One of the ladies noticed me looking round and asked another member of staff where my DD was. She replied that DD was with third member of staff. I said she wasn't as I had just seen the third member of staff washing pots in the kitchen.

So the first two staff and I started looking for DD, she was found outside, on her own on the wooden play equipment. No one had known where she was, or had even noticed her absence. The three members of staff had only been caring for 7 children.

My DD was fine, I picked her up and gave her a cuddle, got my DS and went home.

But now it's all I can think about. I don't know how long she was outside on her own, definitely 5 mins minimum. A lot could have happened in 5 mins, it didn't though I know.

The play area she was found in is right next to the road. Whilst the centre is gated, the gates are not locked as it is a drop in centre.

WWYD? Should this be recorded as a 'near miss' type event? Should I take it further, or just be glad my DD is safe? I really can't stop thinking about DD on her own.

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PookBob · 28/09/2013 20:28

The course is run by Sure Start so I would have to stop attending really. I was very keen on doing this course though, paediatric first aid!

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PookBob · 28/09/2013 22:15

Thank you for all the replies, you've really helped me to cope with this through the day. I may get some sleep tonight :)

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notanyanymore · 28/09/2013 22:21

I think you should complain, right away, in writing. It takes the pressure off 'holding it together' when you try raising it (I'm awful in those kind of situations and somehow always manage to talk myself out of it without them having said a word!) And IMO this scenario is well worth a formal complaint (especially if you need to continue to use the childcare) and in those circa its always best to have everything in writing to maintain an accurate record.

GingerbreadMoomin · 28/09/2013 22:28

I'd complain straight away to the manager and to ofsted regardless of wanting to complete the course. I understand that you'll need them to provide childcare for the remainder of the sessions but they should be able to deal with your complaint in a mature way

PookBob · 28/09/2013 22:39

Notanyanymore - exactly, I hate difficult conversations and can imagine by the end of it I would be the one apologising profusely!

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notanyanymore · 28/09/2013 22:47

Yup that's me too! But honestly within this set of circs you are not wrong to complain! From the sound of it you really need to continue with the childcare and if you complain, well its the only way really to get their attention and ensure they are properly looking after your child. Have you got anyone that could help you with the letter?

notanyanymore · 28/09/2013 22:48

Or email, emails even better. Legally it holds the same weight as a written letter and you get a copy of what was written, when it was sent etc.

BrianTheMole · 28/09/2013 22:51

Absolutely not good enough. Complain to ofsted.

Wonderstuff · 28/09/2013 22:54

Definitely get it in writing and complain, I'd go to OFSTED too, even if you aren't ever going to use them again they need to improve things for the safety of other children. At 1 I'd expect staff have a child in their sights at all times.

PookBob · 28/09/2013 22:54

Unfortunately I have guests all day tomorrow and most of the day on Monday, so will have to draft something Monday evening. Putting some more time between the event and writing the letter may actually help me to be less emotional and more direct with my complaint.

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moldingsunbeams · 28/09/2013 23:42

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Thumbwitch · 29/09/2013 04:31

I'm sorry that it seems as though you won't be able to complete your course but under the circumstances I wouldn't leave her there again.

Woefully inadequate care, and clearly getting a poor OFSTED report hasn't shaken them up sufficiently to pull their socks up, so it would be a definite No.

Report them to OFSTED, and cc OFSTED in to any communication you have with the manager.

LadyBarlow · 29/09/2013 04:46

There should be a children's centre manager who is in charge of everything at the centre. I would write/speak to them but I would also be reporting this to ofsted immediately. This type of neglect would, in my experience, trigger a visit by an ofsted inspector. The setting will be expected to show they have procedures in place for children in their care & ofsted will then want to know why these policies were not adhered to.
Please please do not let this go, please report it.

PookBob · 29/09/2013 20:20

Could anyone help? Particularly childcare professionals?

After I left the children's centre on Friday, should the staff have filled in some kind of record of this event? An accident book type entry of a safeguarding issue?

I would like to query wether this happened if it would have been standard procedure. I am concerned that they may not have done to protect themselves from internal or external investigation given their already 'inadequate' OFSTED rating.

Thank you,

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hettienne · 29/09/2013 20:28

I work in a children's centre and actually don't know what the procedure would be in that situation as we have never lost a child Shock

I would want an immediate face to face meeting with the manager now though and would be contacting Ofsted and the LA.

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PookBob · 29/09/2013 21:21

Zzzzzzz - could you tell me what parent partnership is?

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Cindy34 · 29/09/2013 21:49

Initially as others have already said, write to or talk to the manager. They may not be aware that the incident happened and they may be able to put in measures, procedures to prevent it happening again.
If the garden/playarea has a gate that is unlocked, then that needs addressing. It needs to be secure when in use by children.

An incident form should ideally have been completed at the time by the member of staff in charge at the time. Such reports are then used by management to identify risks and take action to minimise risks.

If actions taken by the manager are not to your satisfaction you could put a complaint in to the regulator.

PookBob · 29/09/2013 22:56

Thank you zzzzzz, I'm going to go into the centre tomorrow morning and speak to the manager. I am going to ask if an incident report has been completed and really just get a feel for how seriously this is being taken. I will then probably contact OFSTED and talk it through with them.

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PookBob · 29/09/2013 22:59

Also, I am concerned that the other 5 parents on the course will continue to use this crèche facility for the next 4 weeks, and they will probably never know what happened on Friday, it could so easily have been one of their children.

I am absolutely against scaremongering and gossip, but I feel awful that I can't warn them about this.

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chelsbells · 29/09/2013 23:08

Glad to hear she was found safe and sound!!

I work in a nursery and the protocol for an incident like this would be managers taking witness statements of all staff, who left the outside space in what order, when then counted the children, who had the register, who checked the garden on leaving etc and how and when and what they did when they realized she was missing. This would then be gone through with you and reported to the local safeguarding board and suitable action then taken against the staff!

Ask to see the incident report as you have a right - and please complain to ofsted!! It isn't right that so called childcare can do this to the children!

PookBob · 29/09/2013 23:14

Thank you Chelsbells, that's exactly the information I was looking for.

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NomDeClavier · 30/09/2013 09:24

chelsbells's nursery sounds like a fairly standard missing child protocol. There should definitely be a record and training identified for the staff member(s) responsible as a result.

Have you read the OFSTED report? Was safeguarding flagged up as an area of concern?

I'd also ask to see their relevant policies. If they don't have one which covers this eventuality then I would be worried what else they didn't have.