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DD taking & Destroying my personal things & lying (long)

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cherriesblossom · 22/04/2012 00:39

I need some advice.

DD is nearly eight. I love her with all my heart, but for as long as I can remember, she has been abit sneaky. Not massively so, but things like sneaking an extra biscuit or telling fibs. I don't know why, her older sister isn't like this at all. It's a really horrible trait & I find it very difficult to deal with. My main stance is, you get in bigger trouble for lying, and I will be more understanding if you tell the truth, even if you have been naughty.

Recently,when she has been told off for other stuff & sent to her room, she has been very sneaky and taken small personal items of mine. Some she has hidden away, and I've later found them. Mostly they are of no value (e.g, a pretty gold lid from a perfume bottle, or her sisters rubber bracelet ). However, when her dad recently told her off for something, she went upstairs, found an old photo of mine of my childhood school friends, and ripped it into small pieces.

This incident really, really upset me. I didn't shout or scream at her, but had a long talk with her (she found this really difficult, cried quite abit and asked why couldn't I just tell her off?) We talked about things being irreplacable, how disrespectful it was, how it meant I'd find it difficult to trust her etc etc. She doesn't seem to have much empathy.

We talked about ways she could express her angry & created a 'feelings' book together, which she can write in & share with us. It's to help her to understand why she is angry, vent abit, take some responsiblity & get a response from us. It's been working Okish.

Today both kids were told off for arguing, and sent to their room. I later found a favour saved from my wedding, ripped up and squashed in the bin. I am 100% sure it was her, but she will not admit it. I don't want to interrogate her (as it just becomes a battle of wills, and she acts victimised, even when she later admits to the 'crime'), but am so angry & upset. I had to go out, and before I left, asked her to write the truth in the feelings book and we could talk about it later. She just acted all cheerful saying 'Fine', smiling & waving me off. It was obvious I was furious by this point, and I almost felt she was taking some pleasure in that.

In the book tonight, she has written that she is angry at being accused by me. In the 'Did I do anything wrong?' section, she has simply put 'No'. I know this is a lie.

What do I do now? Drop it? Pursue it with her? Get someone else involved - teacher/ed psych?

I am at the end of my tether with this. Feel so disappointed in her & really struggling to deal with this horrible situation effectively.

Please help.

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tb · 25/04/2012 00:13

You have my sympathy. I have a dd that has a total lack of empathy.

Yesterday she told me to 'fuck off' - despite dh telling her that I left for work in tears when someone was shouting obscenities in my face all day, and then eventually walked out.

She also doesn't do remorse, although it is only in the last 6 months that she has realised this is unusual as her friends do.

After much searching, we think she has PDA - a sort of atypical autism, and are trying to get her assessed.

Good luck with your dd.

ButteryBiscuitBase · 27/04/2012 22:39

I am going through a similar thing with my 8 year old dd. She loses her temper and does things in a rage and then gets v upset afterwards. She has also taken things from me and hidden them as well as coming home with a toy from her cousins and then made up an elaborate story! No ideas to help you just want to say I know how it feels. I wouldn't mind knowing more about the feelings book you use?

1950sHousewife · 27/04/2012 22:46

There is one of my threads on this, about my DD of the same age lying and stealing. It sounds exactly the same. Really stiff punishments (having to go to a shopowner and admit she was stealing etc) didn't work.

The only thing that has worked, really, really well after she stole some pick and mix was grounding her for a week. We both went pretty loopy at her. Then, NO TV, playdates, brownies, at all. For a week. It forced me to spend more time with her, which I think helped. It was hard, but it seemed to click something back in her. We also told her that if she was to do it again, all her Harry Potter books (beloved) would be given to charity. I'm really serious about that one.

I expect it will happen again sometime in the future, but at least this has been really effective, for now.
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sashh · 29/04/2012 06:18

I later found a favour saved from my wedding, ripped up and squashed in the bin. I am 100% sure it was her, but she will not admit it.

How are you so sure?

Have you asked older sister if she did it?

Even if you are 100% sure it is younger dd then you should still ask the older one, otherwise you are treating younger one differently and unfairly so.

I don't know why, her older sister isn't like this at all.

Maybe that's why. Her older sister is perfect, she is the naughty younger one, she is living up (or down) to expectations. Please tell me you have never siad "Your sister doesn't do this".

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