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Midwife AMA

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MidwifeMidwife · 21/04/2024 16:59

I'm a midwife with 20 years experience.
I currently provide NHS home birth care.

AMA

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sosickofbeingskint · 22/04/2024 02:32

My midwife spent the majority of my labour with her back to me, making notes.

Is this normal these days?

sosickofbeingskint · 22/04/2024 02:33

Do you feel midwives get sufficient training on supporting breastfeeding? I've had some great, but also some terrible advice on BGing from community MWs.

MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:09

WonderingWanda · 21/04/2024 18:44

After my first birth my community midwife told me "Well that's because you had an epidural" in quite a judgemental tone when I told her I'd had forceps and tearing. In hospital after 2 days in labour with a back to back baby who was stuck the a lovely hospital midwife recommended the epidural to give me a break as I was exhausted after being left for 12 hrs on the antenatal ward. Do midwives judge women who have epidurals? Is it seen as weak?

I also internalised every time a less nice hospital midwife told me off for having keytones in my urine (was feeling too sick to eat) and that no I couldn't have any pain relief because my contractions weren't productive and therefore felt that somehow the productivity of my contractions was my fault. Do midwives blame women for slow labour? If so why don't they give better advice on how to speed it up. In ny experience you just get left in a room to get on with it until the actual active birth bit.

You advocate home birth but I have a disabled sibling due to a complicated birth so I was afraid of a home birth. Also with my large back to back baby would being at home have made any difference to my outcomes?

Sorry you've come across some unkind midwives. No one should be judging you for your choices of pain relief or how you've progressed.

There is an increased chance of forceps birth with epidural but that could be partly due to an increased use of epidural where labour is already long and tricky. Either way, using that info in anything other than a kind and constructive way is just totally unnecessary.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:12

WonderingWanda · 21/04/2024 18:44

After my first birth my community midwife told me "Well that's because you had an epidural" in quite a judgemental tone when I told her I'd had forceps and tearing. In hospital after 2 days in labour with a back to back baby who was stuck the a lovely hospital midwife recommended the epidural to give me a break as I was exhausted after being left for 12 hrs on the antenatal ward. Do midwives judge women who have epidurals? Is it seen as weak?

I also internalised every time a less nice hospital midwife told me off for having keytones in my urine (was feeling too sick to eat) and that no I couldn't have any pain relief because my contractions weren't productive and therefore felt that somehow the productivity of my contractions was my fault. Do midwives blame women for slow labour? If so why don't they give better advice on how to speed it up. In ny experience you just get left in a room to get on with it until the actual active birth bit.

You advocate home birth but I have a disabled sibling due to a complicated birth so I was afraid of a home birth. Also with my large back to back baby would being at home have made any difference to my outcomes?

Being at home with good quality care supports the physiology of birth well. Whether this would be enough to have changed the course of your labours it would be impossible to say.
Some factors that could impact on that would be the impact on your hormones from travel and going to a strange environment (women often experience a slow down of contractions as a result), lack of ability to move around, feel quiet and safe, eat and drink as you like, remain upright and feel unobserved.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:13

PoochiesPinkEars · 21/04/2024 18:44

I wish I could go back and send a thank you card to the midwife who came to my home birth.
It was a tough time, I always wanted to enquire at the hospital who the lady who cared for me was so I could thank her, but I never managed to do it.
She was fabulous, so considerate and made me feel like I was a partner in the process, unlike the hospital birth is previously had where I was treated like a piece of meat.
Can I thank you in her stead and just say that any midwife who assists a birth and manages to make the mum feel heard regardless of what process the birth goes through in the end is doing incredible work. 💐

That's so lovely.
You could send a card and someone will be able to redirect it to her as her name will be in your notes.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:13

AWafferthinmint · 21/04/2024 18:53

What's the biggest baby you have ever delivered? And what type of birth did the mother have?

4950kg/ 10lb 15oz
Home water birth.
Gorgeous chunky baby.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:21

MudandMoet · 21/04/2024 19:14

I'm 44, have a bicornuate (heart shaped) uterus and so under a consultant. We agreed at my last appointment I'd be induced at around 39 weeks. Does this seem a good idea (he briefly mentioned my baby could be breech due to uterus shape) and would you say the people induced early end up having an ECS as the body just isn't ready yet and doesn't end up responding so have more issues?

www.sarawickham.com/research-updates/induction-for-advanced-maternal-age/

Some good discussion above.
There is a higher than average chance of baby being breech but if it is you'd look at your plans with that in mind.
Assuming baby is head down, the induction recommendation is probably due to maternal age as generally women over 40 are recommended induction due to slight increase in stillbirth rate.
The bicornuate uterus increases chance of preterm birth. But depending on severity may not be a concern beyond that.

Best to find out exactly what the reason for the recommendation is, what's the evidence and stats, and then you can weigh it up and decide what feels right for you.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:22

CasuirDubh · 21/04/2024 19:15

I had a precipitous labour due to overstimulation with induction pessary. Baby born minutes after pessary was removed. I was told by a midwife that this means I'm likely to have another precipitous labour next time even without an induction. Is this true?

Hmmm, I'm not sure.
I'd prepare potentially to labour quite quickly but im not sure if it would be a given.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:28

ThisOneIsMine · 21/04/2024 19:17

I have 2 children, 1st birth textbook

2nd I feel was Iver medicalised I wanted a home birth, but was told I couldn't have one. First my placenta was covering the os, then it moved, then had excess water that was fine a few months on they think it was baby's position on the scan dates, the baby was measuring small, (even though my first was born small) I was on the ward being monitored 3 times a week for the last 4 weeks of my pregnancy!

I was gutted I didn't get a home birth and eventually settled on being in the pool on the ward. Then a few weeks before my due date I got covid, there was an issue with my placenta and cord and baby was suffering, I ended up being induced. It was a horrible experience, and even though I said I didn't want to birth on the bed again, and really wanted to be in the pool I ended up birthing on the bed strapped to the monitor because of an issue with baby heat rate. Baby needed resuscitation when born (they think it was shock as I birth fast!)

We are thinking about baby number 3, and I would want a home birth. Would my 2nd labour stop that from happening? And do you have any good info I can signpost dh to as he is nervous about home birth given all the complications we had with dc2.

Thank you 😊

That all sounds very stressful!

All women have the right to choose where to give birth. They should have the opportunity to have a quality discussion re pros and cons of each place of birth.

It's hard to say what the recommendation would be for next time without all of the info.

What we are aiming for with homebirth is not anticipating requiring a doctor or advanced equipment.

Some things that happen in a previous labour are relevant and some aren't, often depending on if it's something which is likely to repeat and cause a problem.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:29

ThisOneIsMine · 21/04/2024 19:17

I have 2 children, 1st birth textbook

2nd I feel was Iver medicalised I wanted a home birth, but was told I couldn't have one. First my placenta was covering the os, then it moved, then had excess water that was fine a few months on they think it was baby's position on the scan dates, the baby was measuring small, (even though my first was born small) I was on the ward being monitored 3 times a week for the last 4 weeks of my pregnancy!

I was gutted I didn't get a home birth and eventually settled on being in the pool on the ward. Then a few weeks before my due date I got covid, there was an issue with my placenta and cord and baby was suffering, I ended up being induced. It was a horrible experience, and even though I said I didn't want to birth on the bed again, and really wanted to be in the pool I ended up birthing on the bed strapped to the monitor because of an issue with baby heat rate. Baby needed resuscitation when born (they think it was shock as I birth fast!)

We are thinking about baby number 3, and I would want a home birth. Would my 2nd labour stop that from happening? And do you have any good info I can signpost dh to as he is nervous about home birth given all the complications we had with dc2.

Thank you 😊

Instagram has lots of good honmebirth info, and some wild stuff. Be judicious in what you read.

Sara wickham and Claire feeley are good resources.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:31

Ellie525 · 21/04/2024 19:20

I always wanted a home birth but ended up opting for ELCS first time round... would a home birth ever be an option for DC2 given Im overweight and 40 now? 🙈

Everything is an option.
You need a quality discussion and pros and cons then the decision is yours.
Vaginal birth after Caesarian carries some additional risks and the recommendation would be to birth in a hospital. Have a good read around the recommendations and see what you think.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:33

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 21/04/2024 19:22

What are the red flags immediately following birth, not holding baby 24/7, having a shower & leaving baby alone ten mins? Is there follow up? Psychiatric intervention?

Red flags for what?
I'd not be concerned about someone having a shower but I'd expect them to ask someone to keep an eye on baby.
I'd not expect them to hold baby 24/7, but I might be concerned if they aren't interacting with their baby at all.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:36

blueberry23 · 21/04/2024 19:24

During my second birth I had back to back contractions (after the midwife broke my waters). It was awful like a rollercoaster I couldn't get off, no break in between.

I screamed. A lot.

I felt like my midwife got annoyed at me, like I was giving her a headache - she kept telling me to stop screaming.

Do you ever get annoyed at women for making too much noise? I wish I'd been given a pillow to scream in to.

Women very rarely scream at home birth and I think it's because you scream when you're frightened and overwhelmed and in agony.
It sounds like you were given too much to be able to manage and then didn't feel safe and cared for which is really sad.
Sometimes we would encourage you not to scream if you needed to be focused ie to help avoid tearing. But that would by helping you with breathing/coping methods/pain relief rather than just telling you to be quiet which is terribly unhelpful.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:39

noshadowatnoon · 21/04/2024 19:26

In your opinion, what percentage of births would go absolutely fine with no danger to Mum or baby if they were alone without any medical help at all, maybe just a friend or partner - say, cut of in a snow storm or whatever,

No idea.
There's so much to consider.
Some women have a really high chance of problems, some a very low chance, and then things can happen unpredictably in both groups.
I'd never suggest birthing without a midwife, as there's always a chance of a sudden situation that needs midwife intervention.
We do have lots of BBA's though, where baby comes fast before we can get there and it's uncommon for there to be problems- most are fine.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 22/04/2024 11:39

Have you ever come across a Bandls ring? Had one with my first and ended up with a classic T incision section, apparently very rare at my hospital.

MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:40

Aglassaday · 21/04/2024 19:26

Is there anything that can be done to prevent morning sickness and vomiting during labour?

honestly terrified of it

We have anti sickness medication for both scenarios.
Women also report success with acupuncture/aromatherapy so that's worth a look too.

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Ygfrhj · 22/04/2024 11:43

I've always wondered if my birth would have gone differently on the NHS? How would you have approached this.

I moved overseas during pregnancy. I lost all my waters in a big gush, arrived at hospital and waited overnight with nothing happening. In the morning I was told I had to have an epidural (I still don't know why but they were so insistent) and antibiotics (GBS). After that I wasn't allowed to get up from the bed but they didn't explain why. I lay around on the bed until 5pm when the OB said I needed a Caesarean because the baby wasn't doing anywhere and that was that. Afterwards they said I had been fully dilated but contractions were pushing baby sideways towards my hip.

I'm sure it's hard to know what might have happened but I still feel upset about how it all went.

MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:49

’""Home birth is safe for most women’ ?? I’m afraid your advice is unprofessional and dangerous.
I had a ‘normal’ pregnancy and went to hospital once in labour. It lasted 36hrs and my daughter was finally delivered with Neville Barnes forceps. It was hell.
Four years later when I plucked up the courage to have a 2nd child she was luckily breach which meant they needed to X-ray my pelvis to see if she could be delivered vaginally. They discovered my pelvis was extremely flat ( no room for babies head to rotate properly, which explained 1st baby problems) so she was born via CS. Thank God, great experience.
Unless the NHS are going to start routinely checking for pelvis abnormalities people like me will always be safer delivering ""

The nhs don't X-ray pelvic size because it's a poor predictor of labour outcome whilst increasing CS rate, there is no evidence base to support its use.

Having a labour with lack of progress doesn't in itself make you 'unsafe' at home. We have a number of women who will transfer to hospital with a lack of progress but that doesn't mean their home birth was unsafe, just not what they eventually need. Most women who transfer in still value the time at home.

Also, in the nicest possible way, one case with an exceptional situation is not "most women".

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Nubnut · 22/04/2024 11:51

First birth 4.1kg, shoulder dystocia and ventouse delivery.
Shoulder dystocia just 1 minute, baby’s APGAR was 9, 10, 10.

Second birth 3.9kg, no intervention, no meds, first degree tear, absolutely dream birth. I did a massive amount of research and preparation with a professional doula. Wouldn’t change a thing.

Both in hospital. The second one, it felt like it was so unnecessary to do the horrible 45 minute drive to hospital while I was transitioning.

For birth number 3, would you recommend a home birth? Or would the shoulder dystocia with baby 1 make it a no-no?

thank you

MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:53

tinkerbellesslagoon · 21/04/2024 19:37

How often is the father of the baby NOT present for a birth?

Whether that’d because they are not involved, they are involved but chose a different birthing partner or because they just happened to miss it.

Do you think it’s essential? I find it fascinating that decades ago men weren’t ‘allowed’ to be in the room but we’ve done a full flip to women feeling like they HAVE to have their baby’s father present

Usually the partner is present.
Occasionally they miss it as baby comes fast.
Occasionally the woman will choose mum or sister or friend as they feel they will be a better support.

Michel odent quite renowned for his birth knowledge is very anti men in birthing spaces, I saw him upset an audience full of men once but his information was very interesting. I don't think partners are always the best person to provide hands on support- it needs to be someone who can nurture and encourage and support and make you feel safe and that might not always be your partner. Home birth tends to be a couple of supporters, men often doing the practical stuff and verbal support and mum or friend wiping brow and changing pads.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:54

nocoolnamesleft · 21/04/2024 19:38

What's the longest you've had to wait for an ambulance when you've needed an emergency transfer to hospital?

They've always come really quickly and send 2 ambulances at least. I'm very reassured by our local services.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:56

No, I'm gender critical.

I will of course be professional and use inclusive language and be respectful when caring directly for a trans person.

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:57

Applesandbananaz · 21/04/2024 19:40

Have you listened to the midwives cauldron podcast? I bloody loved it. Made my 3rd pregnancy and birth so much less traumatic as felt so much more informed

Yeah it's great :)

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 11:57

MidwifeMidwife
No, I'm an atheist so they wouldn't want me! 

I don't think that matters these days.
El Popo is more motivated by numbers these days.

And those whimple thingies address those 'bad hair days' in the wink of an eye.

Good to have options! Grin

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MidwifeMidwife · 22/04/2024 12:00

FinallyPregnant23 · 21/04/2024 20:01

What do you think of FSEs? Are they really necessary do you think? Currently 34w and I hate the idea of them, they seem barbaric!

If you REALLY need to monitor a baby's heart rate, and you can't do so by any other means then it's the FSE or off for a Caesarian section.
I've never seen a baby come to any harm from one, although I've seen the odd post on Instagram as they are getting a bad press at the moment. It's like anything, it's not ideal but it might be better than the next best option.

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