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I have 2 doctorates in psychology

97 replies

Psy · 02/07/2023 10:14

Ask me anything about psychology

OP posts:
LaBefana · 03/07/2023 13:06

Didn't 'Doctor' Ian Paisley get his doctor's degree by mail order from the Bob Jones University in America?

3WildOnes · 03/07/2023 13:07

Professional doctorates are funded and you are usually paid a wage whilst studying and working for the NHS.
Ime it is much easier to get on to a funded PHD if you already have a professional doctorate.

This is honestly not that unusual for psychologists and psychotherapists.

FishTrashGlove · 03/07/2023 13:54

No one has told you to "shut the fuck up," we are just suggesting that comments you make in the context of this thread about subjects outside your area of specialism should perhaps be more clearly caveated, for the avoidance of concern or confusion. If others don't think so, fair enough.

I didn't mention biomarkers or anything specific like that but, yes, I do believe that any diagnoses in general are more robust when based on more than just observable behaviours. There is a rigorous evidence-gathering process during proper autism assessments, that includes subjective recollections, responses and interpretations. But I'm not a qualified assessor so I'd recommend looking up reliable information on that if it's of interest.

The reason I asked when and where you trained was because friends and colleagues I have now in England are struggling with it so they must be doing something wrong. Or I'm misunderstanding. (I rather suspect it's the latter...!)

Well, this thread has inspired me to look into a few things in more depth so thank you 😊

giggly · 04/07/2023 06:59

id wager that op is an overseas bought kid on psychologist who has met their match here

Maireas · 04/07/2023 07:46

Like others, I'm surprised that PhDs are free and easy to access. So that's a surprise. Were they both through the same university? Did you have the same supervisor?

Maireas · 04/07/2023 07:48

3WildOnes · 03/07/2023 13:07

Professional doctorates are funded and you are usually paid a wage whilst studying and working for the NHS.
Ime it is much easier to get on to a funded PHD if you already have a professional doctorate.

This is honestly not that unusual for psychologists and psychotherapists.

I didn't know that. Interesting, thank you.

Maireas · 04/07/2023 07:50

NeverEnoughCake2 · 02/07/2023 23:15

I'd suggest treading very carefully around the mental health questions people have been posing as neither of your doctorates are in that area. If you do an AMA titled "I have two doctorates in Psychology," people will assume your answers to their questions reflect doctoral level study of the topic.

Yes, I think that's the problem. He/she/they actually doesn't want to talk in a professional capacity.

theDudesmummy · 04/07/2023 07:53

You are completely wrong about it "changing" that psychiatrists "have to be doctors first". Psychiatry is a medical speciality, ie a branch of medicine.

Cantonet · 04/07/2023 07:56

Psy · 02/07/2023 10:40

Yes, it's good that more resources and attention are being directed to mental health, especially after lockdown.

I'm a theoretical/research psychologist though and I find the medical model of mental health to be annoying. Diagnosis is mostly for the convenience of the system. People need to be assigned here and there. And the diagnosis is based on what professionals can observe in short, discrete appointments. So they're heavy on comparison to norms and behaviours that can be universally and easily observed. Whereas as a parent, for example, you're looking at interactions and patterns of behaviour over time. What the kid likes, how they respond in different settings, how people respond to them. I feel like there's often a disconnect between the formal diagnosis and what parents see. On the other hand, some parents really love a diagnosis. As you say, there's views on all sides.

Well this answer is completely wrong.
I really do wish that more resources were being directed. Anyone in clinical practice or with family members desperate for help would know that's not the case.
You're not a psychologist in the real sense. But purely an academic.
I'm over & out of this thread.
It's pointless.

onlymyselftoanswerto1 · 04/07/2023 08:17

Maireas · 04/07/2023 07:46

Like others, I'm surprised that PhDs are free and easy to access. So that's a surprise. Were they both through the same university? Did you have the same supervisor?

They are usually neither...

theDudesmummy · 04/07/2023 08:26

I am wondering about the OP's genuineness. Someone with two PhDs in a related field actually not knowing what a psychiatrist is? Sounds off to me.

LaBefana · 04/07/2023 08:41

theDudesmummy · 04/07/2023 08:26

I am wondering about the OP's genuineness. Someone with two PhDs in a related field actually not knowing what a psychiatrist is? Sounds off to me.

I smelt a rat from the start.

MuckyPlucky · 04/07/2023 08:47

OP, some questions:

  • Do you think it’s the done thing for ‘psychologists’ to repeatedly use terms like ‘crazy’ and ‘normal’ ?
  • Are you really trying to have us believe that it’s ‘easy’ to get accepted onto a phd?
  • Where did you get the notion that because a psychologist’s professional registration (HCPC) has lapsed that they’d need to re-do their phd?! 😂

Warm regards,
An HCPC-registered MH professional
(BA, MA, MSC, HCPC-reg)

theDudesmummy · 04/07/2023 08:51

Yeah, the bit about "redoing" the PhD is obviously nonsense too, now I see that. This person is misleading people.

FishTrashGlove · 04/07/2023 22:49

A generous take might be that OP has dumbed everything down (unnecessarily) for a MN audience and that's why it all feels a bit off. Maybe.

LaBefana · 04/07/2023 22:53

I have 2 doctorates in psychology

I have 2 buttocks on my arse. What do you think of that, Professor Walter Mitty?

Hawkins0001 · 04/07/2023 22:59

giggly · 02/07/2023 22:27

This is very worrying that you are giving out completely wrong information.
As you have said you have no clinical experience as a psychologist perhaps you are not best to offer anything other than a lay persons perspective. Also you intro as having two PHD is somewhat misleading to to people who will not realise it’s simply a reappear of the same one.

But then on one flip side would people also be wise to not fully trust one source of information ?

Maireas · 05/07/2023 07:21

OP you say it's easy to get placements and PhDs in Psychology. Why is this? Is it not a competitive area?

Poxie · 05/07/2023 07:35

I think a more accurate title would have been 'I'm a SAHM who has done a shit-load of distance learning. AMA.'

MyHabits · 05/07/2023 12:40

I think the psychology of language is a massive area, and that linguistics and psychology go well together. That's my impression from the outside, anyway.

Your impression? With 2 phds? mhmm.

SurreyPsych · 12/08/2023 16:00

I don’t know much about other areas of psychology, but I can tell you from experience that getting onto a professional doctoral programme in clinical psychology is INCREDIBLY competitive, contrary to the information here.

Typically applicants far exceed the minimum entry requirements to the programme. Success rates are around 15% and that’s with a 1st or 2:1 undergraduate degree, most often a masters, and many years of clinical experience.

Personally, I had a first class bsc, distinction MSc, a PGdip in CBT and 6+ years of clinical experience before getting onto training.

If you are looking for support with your mental health, a clinical or counselling psychologist would be the most relevant. Neurodiversity / neurodevelopment, a clinical psychologist, neuropsychologist or an educational psychologist.

Not an occupational psychologist :)

GiddyUpH · 12/08/2023 16:24

Weird thread.

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