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I have 2 doctorates in psychology

97 replies

Psy · 02/07/2023 10:14

Ask me anything about psychology

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Joolsin · 02/07/2023 15:01

I worked in admin for a company of occupational psychologists once - very interesting and enjoyable job, but most of the psychologists were a bit crazy and a few were, I think, certifiably bonkers (not using medical terms here, btw!!). Do you think that people with psychological issues are more drawn to study and then work in that profession, so then it ends up with a higher proportion of people with psychological issues than would be the norm in most areas of work?

dizzydizzydizzy · 02/07/2023 15:17

Psy · 02/07/2023 10:52

Nobody calls me Dr Dr. Actually, nobody even calls me one Dr.

You get people in the German-speaking world called things like Frau Dr Dr x or Herr Prof Dr y.

anonymous98 · 02/07/2023 15:34

First of all, congratulations on two PhDs! You must have put in a lot of hard work.

My goal is to go into research/theoretical psychology. I have a MSc conversion psych degree (and a completely unrelated undergrad because 18-year-old me had no idea what I was doing). Do you think I could do anything with this? Will PhD programmes accept Merit and not Distinction? Additionally, is there much interest in psychology and linguistics?

Sorry to bombard you with questions!

anonymous98 · 02/07/2023 15:35

Also slightly embarrassing question - what age are most people on Psychology PhD programmes?

DisforDarkChocolate · 02/07/2023 15:38

Alice Evans. Mad or bad (or both)?
@Psy

SophiaElise · 02/07/2023 15:44

Psy · 02/07/2023 10:46

No, I didn't do clinical psychology. I did work psychology and my PhD was kinda cognitive and health psychology.

Psychiatrists used to have to be doctors first (but I heard that's changing now), so they traditionally had a medical and psychoanalytic approach to treating patients. Clinical psychologists have a background in psychology. I never studied it, but I think they're big on cognitive behavioural therapy and similar. Therapist/counsellor are general terms, anyone can do that, I think.

Psychiatrists are doctors who have completed medical school, two years of foundation training and 6-8 years of core/specialist training in psychiatry afterwards. They will always be medical doctors, so not sure where you heard this is changing.

TheOutlaws · 02/07/2023 15:48

I’m completing an MSc conversion just now, with a view to applying for DEdPsy.

I wonder if you have thoughts around:

(a) autistic girls/women being misdiagnosed with a PD

(b) autism manifesting as ‘trans’ or gender-diverse?

Dontlistitonfacebook · 02/07/2023 15:49

What@SophiaElise said

SeatonCarew · 02/07/2023 15:50

AuntieJune · 02/07/2023 10:32

Do people think you're a joke because they have to call you doctor doctor?

Ha ha!

My FIL was Herr Professor Doktor Surname.

We used to call him Herr Professor Doktor Papa Surname.

LaBefana · 02/07/2023 15:53

Is that one doctorate for each hemisphere of your brain? How do you get a hat to fit you?

LaBefana · 02/07/2023 15:55

SeatonCarew · 02/07/2023 15:50

Ha ha!

My FIL was Herr Professor Doktor Surname.

We used to call him Herr Professor Doktor Papa Surname.

We call my friend's German husband 'Dipling' behind his back.

SeatonCarew · 02/07/2023 17:55

LaBefana · 02/07/2023 15:55

We call my friend's German husband 'Dipling' behind his back.

Why behind his back?

LaBefana · 02/07/2023 19:18

SeatonCarew · 02/07/2023 17:55

Why behind his back?

Because it would be tedious to explain.

Psy · 02/07/2023 22:03

Joolsin · 02/07/2023 15:01

I worked in admin for a company of occupational psychologists once - very interesting and enjoyable job, but most of the psychologists were a bit crazy and a few were, I think, certifiably bonkers (not using medical terms here, btw!!). Do you think that people with psychological issues are more drawn to study and then work in that profession, so then it ends up with a higher proportion of people with psychological issues than would be the norm in most areas of work?

I used to think this too. But now I've met more people outside psychology, I wonder if it's more that people who study psychology feel that their insanity is a cute and interesting personality feature, whereas other people hide it more.

I remember one day, a student came to class upset, and everyone was thrilled. There was a sort of unseemly hussle to get a good active listening position and ask open questions. It's more people like that, maybe, than other styles of crazy.

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DannyNedelko · 02/07/2023 22:06

What am I thinking?

Psy · 02/07/2023 22:14

anonymous98 · 02/07/2023 15:34

First of all, congratulations on two PhDs! You must have put in a lot of hard work.

My goal is to go into research/theoretical psychology. I have a MSc conversion psych degree (and a completely unrelated undergrad because 18-year-old me had no idea what I was doing). Do you think I could do anything with this? Will PhD programmes accept Merit and not Distinction? Additionally, is there much interest in psychology and linguistics?

Sorry to bombard you with questions!

I think the psychology of language is a massive area, and that linguistics and psychology go well together. That's my impression from the outside, anyway.

I think if you have a masters, it doesn't matter what your marks are, you can get into a PhD, but I'm not sure. Getting into a PhD program is usually not hard because universities make money from PhD students.

My advice would be think very carefully before starting a PhD. Make sure you pick a good supervisor, that's the most important thing.

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Psy · 02/07/2023 22:20

anonymous98 · 02/07/2023 15:35

Also slightly embarrassing question - what age are most people on Psychology PhD programmes?

Usually in their 20s, but there are also people in their 30s, 40s and older. Age doesn't seem like a big issue. People coming from other fields or with life experience are generally valued, I think.

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Psy · 02/07/2023 22:23

SophiaElise · 02/07/2023 15:44

Psychiatrists are doctors who have completed medical school, two years of foundation training and 6-8 years of core/specialist training in psychiatry afterwards. They will always be medical doctors, so not sure where you heard this is changing.

I'm sure you're right. I don't know about psychiatry. It's just something I heard, but probably misunderstood.

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giggly · 02/07/2023 22:27

Psy · 02/07/2023 10:46

No, I didn't do clinical psychology. I did work psychology and my PhD was kinda cognitive and health psychology.

Psychiatrists used to have to be doctors first (but I heard that's changing now), so they traditionally had a medical and psychoanalytic approach to treating patients. Clinical psychologists have a background in psychology. I never studied it, but I think they're big on cognitive behavioural therapy and similar. Therapist/counsellor are general terms, anyone can do that, I think.

This is very worrying that you are giving out completely wrong information.
As you have said you have no clinical experience as a psychologist perhaps you are not best to offer anything other than a lay persons perspective. Also you intro as having two PHD is somewhat misleading to to people who will not realise it’s simply a reappear of the same one.

ZebraDilemma · 02/07/2023 22:28

If you were about to start studying for an initial degree again, which course and Uni would you recommend please?

giggly · 02/07/2023 22:34

I have reported this thread due to the inconsistencies and misinformation. If op is really a psychologist then not a very good one

Psy · 02/07/2023 22:42

TheOutlaws · 02/07/2023 15:48

I’m completing an MSc conversion just now, with a view to applying for DEdPsy.

I wonder if you have thoughts around:

(a) autistic girls/women being misdiagnosed with a PD

(b) autism manifesting as ‘trans’ or gender-diverse?

Autism is such a broad category at the moment This isn't my field, and I know people have pretty strong views about this, but all those categories are just descriptions of behaviour. The idea of autism "manifesting" supposes that it's some kind of underlying - I'm not sure what - energy, disorder? When really it's all manifestation, in the sense that if there was no pattern of behaviour there would be no autism, if you see what I mean. The same for personality disorders. So I suppose there's this idea of misdiagnosis as if it's possible to identify the "true" underlying energy/disorder. But is it possible? Maybe it's more about which diagnoses are helpful for the individual (?)

But yes, there's a lot to be said about who gets diagnosed with what and why. And what would be best? I don't know. What do you think?

I've read that there's a connection between autism and gender expression, but I haven't looked into it.

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Psy · 02/07/2023 22:44

DannyNedelko · 02/07/2023 22:06

What am I thinking?

You're wondering what you're thinking?

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RunnerDown · 02/07/2023 22:46

Psy · 02/07/2023 10:40

Yes, it's good that more resources and attention are being directed to mental health, especially after lockdown.

I'm a theoretical/research psychologist though and I find the medical model of mental health to be annoying. Diagnosis is mostly for the convenience of the system. People need to be assigned here and there. And the diagnosis is based on what professionals can observe in short, discrete appointments. So they're heavy on comparison to norms and behaviours that can be universally and easily observed. Whereas as a parent, for example, you're looking at interactions and patterns of behaviour over time. What the kid likes, how they respond in different settings, how people respond to them. I feel like there's often a disconnect between the formal diagnosis and what parents see. On the other hand, some parents really love a diagnosis. As you say, there's views on all sides.

If you are not a clinical psychologist how can your opinion about this mean any more than the average lay person.
I worked with clinical psychologists. They were usually very careful about any opinions they gave and it would be based on research and facts. This sounds like you know little about diagnostic processes in mental health. The psychologists I knew would not make judgements on systems unless very certain that they were very well informed on the subject .
A PHD is also a postgraduate qualification. It doesn’t lapse in the way a registration to an official body does .

Psy · 02/07/2023 22:48

DisforDarkChocolate · 02/07/2023 15:38

Alice Evans. Mad or bad (or both)?
@Psy

Sorry, I never even heard of her before. She looks glamorous anyway.

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