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I live in Dubai - AMA

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Dubbers4life · 18/04/2022 12:52

Go on Dubai lovers and haters, hit me with your questions.

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Dubbers4life · 18/04/2022 12:53

Some basic facts - moves here a year or so ago with husband, newborn baby and dogs. Used to live in Singapore for 4 years. I moved around because of my job - husband follows and generally finds work fairly easily (different industry but another easily transferrable one).

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DesidaCrick · 18/04/2022 12:55

Is there much going on culturally - galleries, exhibitions, opera, ballet, theatre? Is there much for wildlife and nature lovers? I’ve only flown via Dubai, never left the airport.

DesidaCrick · 18/04/2022 12:56

Oh interesting, I like Singapore. How do the two compare? Was it a good move do you think?

redbigbananafeet · 18/04/2022 12:56

How do you feel looking at the Indian construction workers that are essentially modern day slaves?

EnormousSexyCrimeUnit · 18/04/2022 12:58

I used to live in Asia and have just come back from holiday in Dubai. I have always been a bit 'Disney in the desert' about Dubai (especially after seeing some beautiful places around Asia) but actually had a great time on a relaxed beach holiday.

How do you find living there compared with SIngapore? Do you miss your former home?

EastHer · 18/04/2022 12:59

I’m not going to pile on and ask you about human rights and women …I’m sure that will come!

I visited Dubai a few years ago to see friends who had moved out there. It was a decent beach holiday, but I found it quite a boring place and wouldn’t go back.

What do you do for fun, hobbies etc? The Ex Pat life seemed to revolve around drinking and shopping when I was there, although I appreciate that could’ve just been my friends.

And do you see yourself living there long term?

Dubbers4life · 18/04/2022 12:59

@DesidaCrick

Is there much going on culturally - galleries, exhibitions, opera, ballet, theatre? Is there much for wildlife and nature lovers? I’ve only flown via Dubai, never left the airport.
Yes - i'm always a little surprised people bang on about lack of culture. There are local museums, children's museums, science museums and even a new museum of the future. There are theatres, an opera house and loads of live performance spaces. I don't know about ballet though.

Regarding nature and wildlife, there's a butterfly garden, a flamingo sanctuary, mangrove parks down the road in Abu Dhabi and plenty of parks. It's a bit hot in the summer for wildlife spotting but we're talking 3 months or so - the rest of the year is pretty good for outdoor activities.

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DesidaCrick · 18/04/2022 13:15

Thank you. That’s helpful. I might stop over the next time I have to fly long haul, which hasn’t happened for ages.

Dubbers4life · 18/04/2022 13:18

@EastHer

I’m not going to pile on and ask you about human rights and women …I’m sure that will come!

I visited Dubai a few years ago to see friends who had moved out there. It was a decent beach holiday, but I found it quite a boring place and wouldn’t go back.

What do you do for fun, hobbies etc? The Ex Pat life seemed to revolve around drinking and shopping when I was there, although I appreciate that could’ve just been my friends.

And do you see yourself living there long term?

I'll wait for the inevitable human rights onslaught...

But separately, I dont really understand what the issue is with being a woman. I am a woman. I am the main earner and I sponsor my family. I have never once been made to feel second class, ignored or less than the head of the family. I work for a very successful Emirati woman whose husband (also Emirati) does nothing but sing her praises, as do all the male senior people here. I drive, I deal with all the finances and I have never had any issue.

So hobbies - husband plays golf and football in the evenings. Same as at home really. I go to the same gym studio classes I used to go to in SG and before that in London. We arent really hobby people, but we dont do much shopping or drinking. we have lots of BBQs with friends, go to theme and water parks and spend weekends at the beach etc.

For children there is everything and its so much easier to get to than at home. Mine is pretty small still but goes to nursery, does swimming lessons twice a week in the pool by our house, goes to the playground every day with the nanny (not in summer - he goes to one of about 400 softplays and kid play zones then).

We will be here for another few years i think... until we have decided whether to have another child. If we do, we will stay longer but if not we will move home and buy a home.

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Dubbers4life · 18/04/2022 13:19

@EnormousSexyCrimeUnit

I used to live in Asia and have just come back from holiday in Dubai. I have always been a bit 'Disney in the desert' about Dubai (especially after seeing some beautiful places around Asia) but actually had a great time on a relaxed beach holiday.

How do you find living there compared with SIngapore? Do you miss your former home?

I don't miss SG. I miss my friends there but i don't miss 12 months of humidity, general racism and xenophobia, ridiculously OTT covid policies and the fact that its tiny... i think my views were coloured by what we put up with re covid there though.
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Floraflower3 · 18/04/2022 13:30

Are you able to save a lot of money with the cost of living over there? I would love to work abroad for a few years.

Indoctro · 18/04/2022 13:42

I loved Abu Dhabi but wasn't so keen on Dubai, I felt it was a bit too instagramming there. People posing constantly for photos, making there husband take it about 50 times. But we did stay at the Atlantis Palm so that's maybe why,

I loved Yas island though with the kids, I think it's a hidden gem

I would actually live there also.

Dubbers4life · 18/04/2022 13:55

@Floraflower3

Are you able to save a lot of money with the cost of living over there? I would love to work abroad for a few years.
I saved more in SG but i am saving a decent amount here too. When we go home in a few years we will buy a house outright and then just start properly going at the pensions.
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Dubbers4life · 18/04/2022 13:56

@Indoctro

I loved Abu Dhabi but wasn't so keen on Dubai, I felt it was a bit too instagramming there. People posing constantly for photos, making there husband take it about 50 times. But we did stay at the Atlantis Palm so that's maybe why,

I loved Yas island though with the kids, I think it's a hidden gem

I would actually live there also.

I love AD too. I wanted to go there but what I do is more of a Dubai thing (finance).

I hate the Instagrammers but its easy to avoid them if you know where the hotspots are. We dont go to JBR or the Palm on our weekends, for example, we go to La Mer and Kite Beach. Still loads of tourists but less well known for the Gram.

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Dubbers4life · 18/04/2022 14:09

@redbigbananafeet

How do you feel looking at the Indian construction workers that are essentially modern day slaves?
I dont condone it and nor do I accept it.

It's worth noting first that most workers are not treated as badly as the press would have you believe.

-- Yes, the wages are low, but you have to look at this relatively - what they earn in a month pays for their own living costs plus allows them to send more home to their families than they would even earn that month at home. Yes, it would be good to pay them more to let them have a nicer life but there is an argument for not doing so - for example, if they were to be paid the equivalent of British wages you'd literally create a false market economy as you would have thousands of low skilled workers sending the equivalent of untold riches home to tiny villages in India each month. Most workers get free accommodation as well as their wages and the vast majority also get health insurance.
-- There are also rules as to how many hours a day they can work in summer and how long their lunch breaks etc must be. My husband works in this industry and says that the majority of companies do adhere to these rules. Very few of these workers are in the situations that most people would describe as "slavery" - for those that are there are lots of people trying to sort this out and to end the practices that cause it.

-- many of these workers come to Dubai because no matter what you might think about their wages or circumstances, the accommodation and pay remains better than wherever they live. If these options arent open to them, their families starve - there isnt enough work elsewhere or good enough wages for them.

What is your solution if you don't agree with all of this?

It's so interesting that Dubai gets so much stick for this because most of the Middle East is worse - the practices on the stadium builds for the Qatar world cup are not what goes on here, for example.

Further, people always conveniently ignore other areas and other groups of people when they bring out the construction worker concerns. I would like to point out that I saw significantly worse treatment of migrant Chinese construction workers and, even more so, foreign domestic helpers from the Philippines and Indonesia, in Singapore. I also lived in Hong Kong years ago and saw the same terrible treatment there. The stories I could tell you of how people treat these poor women... they sleep on boards on top of cookers because they arent given a bedroom, they get their wages docked because a child breaks an ipad, their paid far less than Dubai's construction workers, they don't get a proper day off, etc etc.

We have domestic helpers here in Dubai too and I'm sure the same bad treatment goes on here too but i'm always so surprised that people who whip out the arguments about human rights and construction workers never seem to know about the domestic workers or that it goes on in SO MANY other places too.

These issues arent Dubai issues - they are worldwide issues. They need solving but paying wages that aren't in proportion or properly relative or ending these types of employment entirely arent the answer.

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BiscuitLover3678 · 15/05/2022 23:11

You mention Singapore was racist? Is it more so than Dubai?

HoraThird · 15/05/2022 23:28

What do you do to with your free time during the summer when it's unbearably hot and humid?

I went to Dubai in August for work and just moved from aircon taxi to hotel to office! It was like a sauna outside!

WTAFFF · 25/05/2022 20:19

Him@Dubbers4life im going to Dubai for the first time and I just wanted to know if it would be appropriate for me to wear knee length shorts as a woman.

I appreciate this might be a silly question but I don’t want to offend anyone.

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