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I’ve Shown Dogs at Crufts - AMA
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DogsNotMen · 11/03/2022 09:36

Crufts is currently on, you want to know anything ask away

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Pyri · 11/03/2022 09:37

Why do they value characteristics that have come from inbreeding and will make the dogs overall more ill- like GSDs having the sloping back legs?

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Spudlet · 11/03/2022 09:38

I’ve only been once and it was so hot, bothering and busy. How well do your dogs cope? I know they’ll have been shown plenty of times in other places before, but surely Crufts must be unusual in its scale?

Do you have a view on the welfare of certain breeds, where form appears to have taken precedence over function?

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DogsNotMen · 11/03/2022 16:18

@Pyri

Why do they value characteristics that have come from inbreeding and will make the dogs overall more ill- like GSDs having the sloping back legs?

GSDs aren’t my breed, and I don’t have much knowledge of the pastoral group, but there is a lot being done in GSDs to improve the breed. If you’re looking to judge that particular breed then there is an additional exam you have to take in order to pass, which covers all of the new improvements to the breed.

There are now some breeds known as “category 3” they are
Bloodhound
Bulldog
Dogue de Bordeaux
German Shepherd Dog
Mastiff
Neapolitan Mastiff
Pekingese
Pug
St. Bernard

Personally I think French Bulldog should be in there too but that’s my opinion. This means there are additional required health tests and checks that must be carried out.

A lot is being done behind the scenes to eradicate certain traits, but it is a slow process. Often “old timers” in breeds are reluctant for changes to happen
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GrimDamnFanjo · 11/03/2022 16:22

Mine are both Retired but have showed quite successfully with their breeder. She's there today for the terrier group.

Showing has the reputation of being really cutthroat - any outrageous examples?

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DogsNotMen · 11/03/2022 16:26

@Spudlet

I’ve only been once and it was so hot, bothering and busy. How well do your dogs cope? I know they’ll have been shown plenty of times in other places before, but surely Crufts must be unusual in its scale?

Do you have a view on the welfare of certain breeds, where form appears to have taken precedence over function?

Crufts is a very different experience because of it being such a long day. You have to, realistically, arrive before the general public as you have a lot of kit to cart in and to get your dogs settled. You also aren’t allowed to leave before 4pm, however if you leave dead on that time you just end up sat in the car park waiting to leave. I’m there tomorrow, and am aiming to be in at 6:30am which is the earliest you can get in.

I currently have two show dogs who are both bomb proof, the acoustics in the NEC are a strange one. There’s another championship show in December at the same venue and a lot of people use it as a Crufts run through or to see if their puppy/junior will cope. I love this show as it’s one of the last of the season and does remind you that Crufts is around the corner. Personally I’d never show a shy dog, but a lot of breeders have struggled with “lockdown puppies” who haven’t had the socialisation they’d usually have. I’m amazed more of the general public don’t have snacks stolen by the dogs though, they often sit ringside eating crisps!!!

My breed is a “utility” breed which was always said to be a breed which original purpose/job no longer exists. It’s a bit of a mishmash of breeds if I’m honest, and some in there really do need an overhaul of breed standard. I do like the category 2 and category 3 breeds lists, which are requiring breeders to do more for health issues, but I think it could go further. I’m lucky in that I have a relatively healthy breed, but some do need taking back to what they used to look like
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Plzhelpifyoucan · 11/03/2022 16:28

What breed of dog do you have?

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UnUdderOne · 11/03/2022 16:30

Why do most breeders there seem to use harsh choke chains rather than train to walk to heel?

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UnUdderOne · 11/03/2022 16:30

Good luck too.

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Orgasmagorical · 11/03/2022 16:32

Do you allow your dogs a normal life when not in the ring? I ask because I once spoke to someone who showed and bred her dogs and they were never allowed on grass, ever. I thought that was so sad.

Another question, if I may, why do they have the leads so tight? Sometimes the dogs have their front feet off the ground.

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Shmithecat2 · 11/03/2022 16:34

@DogsNotMen

A lot is being done behind the scenes to eradicate certain traits, but it is a slow process. Often “old timers” in breeds are reluctant for changes to happen

Well, if abominations like this are awarded Best In Breed at Crufts, it's no wonder 'old timers' are reluctant. Absolutely hideous example of that breed. It's uncomfortable to look at.

Do you breed, or just show?

I’ve Shown Dogs at Crufts - AMA
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SouthOfFrance · 11/03/2022 16:38

Day to day, do people who show dogs at places like crufts do anything different to the average dog owner? I mean grooming, walks, feed, training etc

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olaamigo · 11/03/2022 23:42

I keep seeing people recommend going to shows like Crufts or other local shows in order to meet and chat to breeders if you are looking to get a puppy down the line but I did visit a show and didn't feel I could approach anyone at all!

Do you think that people showing at these shows do welcome members of the public approaching them?

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DollyPardoned · 12/03/2022 10:46

How do you qualify for crufts?

Why do they insist on dragging the dogs head up on a choke collar instead of letting them move around naturally?

Have there ever been instances of dog on dog attacks?

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Ellmau · 13/03/2022 02:19

Are you a breeder, owner, or professional handler?

How did you get into showing?

Have you ever won Best of Breed?

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Kitkat151 · 13/03/2022 05:27

I’m currently on my way to crufts now with my cousin who is showing 2 of his dogs today....i last went with him in 2019 just before first lockdown....not many people there but still exciting...he got a runner up in his category so it was very exciting ( well I thought it was!!) ....hoping for similar today.

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Kitkat151 · 13/03/2022 05:30

@olaamigo

I keep seeing people recommend going to shows like Crufts or other local shows in order to meet and chat to breeders if you are looking to get a puppy down the line but I did visit a show and didn't feel I could approach anyone at all!

Do you think that people showing at these shows do welcome members of the public approaching them?


At crufts they have an area where there is a dog and a bitch of every possible breeed you can think of.....and the owners just sit there all day and people come up and talk to them about the breeds they are interested in ( sorry OP not hijacking your thread😊) ....just excited to be on my way to crufts today
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SouthOfFrance · 13/03/2022 19:17

That's good to know KitKat, we are looking at couple of different breeds but would be so much better to actually talk to someone who knows there stuff, and isn't just trying to talk you into buying from them.

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Cerealnamechangerer · 13/03/2022 19:21

What breed do you show? (I'm guessing Dalmatian)

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Pugfostermum · 13/03/2022 20:02

@olaamigo I was there today and spoke to lots of breeders on the breed stands. Some were super-chatty, others a little more stand-offish.
Just like most people…….

I found talking about my previous dog was a good ice breaker, as I’m sure lots of people go and ‘choose’ a dog breed to talk about/say they want because they are cute without any prior knowledge or interest in the breed…….

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ShrigleyForty · 01/04/2022 20:19

I watched a friend show at Crufts and assumed the treats in your pockets were nutritious tit bits but it friend has a pocket full of cocktail sausages 😋

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