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I am a Narcissist but deep inside i actually hate myself AMA

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GoldenChildReturns · 02/08/2018 20:27

OK, to clarify, i do not have a formal diagnosis of NPD., Instead my diagnosis is EUPD/BPD. So i am not a typical classic narcissist. but i do have some traits and ben told i come across as condescending arrogant and superior.

I don't like myself inside. at all. i remember even as a young child feeling i hated myself. i used to pick at my skin and bite myself. i got angry a lot. serious rages and a sense of feeling abandoned even though i never was actaully abandoned physically AFAIK, though some of my early childhood memories are very hazy and my sister who is 2 years older has had to fill in the blanks for me. apparently even as a child- aged about 9 i would blurt out things like "i hate myself" randomly.

I felt uneay if other people were validated or "loved" more than me. i had intense jealousy of other kids. intense. not for how many toys they had. but how loved and validated they were. my father was abusive but my mum adored me and later when my mental health deteriotated could not believe i was mad, "because you aren't like those people." she had a perfect image of me- in her eyes i was someone very good and easy going. in reality i was a difficult neurotic brat. i was strong willed but also very thin skinned and sensitive to criticism.

As a young child i would ask constantly for reassurance. "am i pretty? " i would ask constantly. if i di not get hte answer i wanted i would have kind of a tantrum only i felt very distressed. i felt worthless if i was not constantly told i was special and lovely. my father would often tell me to eff off or scream at me so i would ask my mother. i would sulk a lot if i tried to talk about myself and share my experiences but those were disbelieved. for example, i was shy at school, with my peers. i once said in front of my mum and sister "i'm shy." and they were like "no, you are not. you are very chatty." Rather than seeing this as a compliment, i would throw a hissy fit. i have been physically violent before when my "truth" has not been acknowledged. As an adult in my 30s i actually became very agressive and abusive towards a CPN who told me she did not really believe i had been exposed to abuse as a child and told me i was not reall having anxiety (even though i was and been diagnosed in past as having anxiety attacks, panic and OCD). IF MY PERCEPTION OF THINGS IS NOT VALIDATED I BECOME VERY ANGRY (sorry- caps on) and lash out like a child. it looks like a
tantrum but inside i am feeling devasted. like a nobody.... i trust only my own view of things. i do get a lot of self doubt but i try to squash these feelings because self doubt makes me loathe myself and feel i do not exist at all

i had a small talent for classical singing and an already operatic sounding voice by the time i was 11. a very big mezzo soprano voice. my music teachers were convinced i should study opera and i did have training. Sadly i became very obsessed with my voice- i felt i had no sense of identity unless i fixed my sense of identity on something solid and my singing became it. to the point that i was always trying to prove myself and quite conceited. i did go on to train although never completed my studies as my health was poor. i had a virus which i did not recover from for several years- extreme fatigue, weakness and flu like symptoms. and my mental health was becoming erratic. i had always binged eaten but my eating grew worse and i went from plump with a resonant voice to an obese person whose voice was damaged by acid reflux and heavy antipsychotic and mood medications i was on for BPD. so that was one "identity" gone.

i am no longer anything special but for the last 10 years i have tried to make myself be loved. i even made my BPD sympoms worse, so i would be loved. i hated my illness yet at same time loved it, because it was who i was. i wanted someone to rescue me. at same time i would push people away. i pushed men away- was scared of sex. i had been sexually assaulted in my childhood (albeit very mildly, nothing damaging) and felt very worthless and shameful. friendships were difficult too- trusting people very hard. i alwyas felt very shameful around people

i was bullied at primary school. all low level stuff, but it was just constant. teasing, being shunned, excluded and tricked and laughed at. i was the gullible vulnerable kid with poor social skills and uncool clothes.

i was scared of people, a shy bookworm, and i love my own space, yet when i was lonely i went through phases where i would do outrageous things to get noticed. eg flirting very obviously and always being the joker. it was another role i was playing. i had been the diva, then the sick person role, npw i was the funny fat girl. At same time i think i do not like people much.

sometimes i would idolise people obsesively- would fixate on a certain person very intensely. but if i was not idolising people, i would be feeling angry with them or indifferent to them.

i honeslty do not naturally care about most people around me. i get v ery bored when people try to talk about their own lives or of they are in a crisis. i became a born again evangelical christian some years ago and it is only through God that i am able to bother with anyone. I am either too afraid of them and how shameful i feel around them or i feel people just are boring. I hate small talk.

i have two guinea pigs whom i love. i have never had a desire for husband or children. i just like my own space and sex has never really interested me. i am capable of being sexually attracted to people for brief periods and very intensely but no desire to "be with them" as it were. i want to be loved and validated by them but i feel inacapable of giving love back. i can feel empathy and compassion for someone who is hurting especially if i have been through a similar situation before, but i cannot be committed deeply to anyone. i just cannot. i see people as having a function in my , rather than people in their own right.

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GoldenChildReturns · 02/08/2018 20:52

My childhood felt abusive and chaotic, yet it was never bad enough. it was bad enough to make me try and kill myself (terrified of my father) and my sister felt that way too but i never felt i had suffered enough. i felt my childhood was only mildly bad compared to what i read in the papers and i always hated feeling boring and "uninteresting." Yet bizarrely i did not feel ordinary,. i felt different and i kind of hated being so different. the weirdo that was picked on. but at the same time i felt my problems were boring and petty. my life felt tiring, stressful, yet i knew on paper that my life was "nothing special." i was nobody special. sometimes i exaggerate and tell lies to people so they will feel i am important.

i told people for years that i had been raped. i hadn't. i was sexually molested as a primary school aged child by some boys in my class and later i was touched inapppropriately by an adult (tried to wriggle away but felt too frozen and embarassed to scream for help) but no i was never raped. i would tell that lie so often it has become a part of me.

when my BPD symptoms started as a teenger i used to wonder if i was going bipolar. i had never heard of BPD then and wouldn't until later. but instead of just saying to a doctor "i think i might have bipolar" i would see doctors and exaggerate my symptoms to make it seem like i had bipolar or depression. i was genuinely having a lot of scary BPD symptoms and felt i was going mad but i was also kind of delighted something was wrong with maybe,. maybe i would get to see a therapist and be listened to and validated. i told people i was bipolar for years before i found out my actual diagnosis of BPD, which made much more sense tbh. certainly it fit me better. but i did continue with the rape lie.

i was mostly verbally/emotionally abused by my father though he did threaten to hit me and did shove me around sometimes, if i did badly at school or something. but not real physical abuse. no one takes verbal or emotional abuse seriously and it was not happening every day. but i made out to people it was really serious stuff- like being beaten.

I found out as an adult before i left home, in my 20s, that my father had been coercing my mum into sex when she did not feel like it by threatening her and humiliating her. but i ended up exaggerating that too, claiming my mum had been raped by my dad.

I have dystonia, (tardive, drug caused type- bad reaction to antipsychotics in my early 20s) have muscle spasms pain. loss of balance and need help in my home. no one has ever heard of that and i feel embarassed to tell people IRL. i told someone i had MS instead. i know that was a wicked thing to do.

i know this sounds like Muchausens (sp?) but i really don't think is so much about attention as just wantinting to feel special or important. A christian counsellor once told me she felt i was a narcissist and maybe had sociopathic tendancies. my mental health team say that these narc and sttention seeking symptoms ar elinked to BPD and that some types of BPD do present like other PDs or contain symptoms of other PDs. apparently there are lots of different manifestations of BPD. i learned that when i went to the group part of my dialectical behaviour therapy. so much in common with each other- we all had BPD- but also a lot of differences too.

i go from thinking i am a bad shameful person to feeling very sorry for myself and making myself out to be a victim. i used to maipulkate people without even knowing i was doing it, now i know when i am sometimes but it is like a compulsion. i want to stop but it is hard. DBT therapy has helped a bit though...

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ExCharlieBucket · 02/08/2018 21:56

You sound very like my sister, so much so that I thought you might be at first! Interestingly we also have a very dysfunctional upbringing, Avis he father and compliant mother who was ineffective at defending our needs.

Does your abandonment issue stem from your mum not protecting you?

What is your sister like? Does she have similar issues?

YaLoVeras · 02/08/2018 21:58

is it histrionic personality disorder, not narcissistic personality disorder. Similar. I know a woman with this.

frijolesandstuff · 02/08/2018 22:05

Sounds really tough...

What would help - in the long-term?

YaLoVeras · 02/08/2018 22:08

It sounds like fairly classic seeking validation outside of yourself. I think you have too much awareness of your reactions to have NPD.

Have you ever read Jonice Webb's ''Running on Empty'' it's good for people whose parents' parenting of them was a bit crap in that you weren't validated as a young child, they didn't see you, they didn't respect your right to set a boundary, maybe their reaction to your expressing a need or a want was to sigh and groan, or maybe if you expressed that you felt hurt or angered by their lack of respect for your boundary, they reacted with excessive rage and you just shut up.
If the adult has immature needs then the child can be made to support/collude with a parent's needs

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