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I'm a sling librarian / babywearing consultant; AMA

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rosiejaune · 18/07/2018 13:11

I run a sling library in a city in the north west of England. I have trained as a babywearing peer supporter with School of Babywearing, and as a babywearing consultant with Slingababy. Ask me anything.

OP posts:
Scootingthebreeze · 22/07/2018 11:27

Lee - have a look at mei tai. Its traditional asian style carrier which ties on and can be altered to make the body shorter for newborns so equally could be altered for you. By altered i literally mean just folding the body of the material once (there are online videos). It is best for babies from about 3 months up but totally useable with newborns (PM me if you need more guidance if i lose track of this thread!) and very cheap to buy providing you check it has reinforced stitching (online guides explain this about the 'x' stitch)

icclemunchy · 22/07/2018 11:32

I'm not sure where the Op went but I'm also a babywearing consultant and run a library so will see if I can answer some.

@sunshiness any that have a good wide base are usually ergonomic. Which one is best will really depend on the size/weight/age of baby

@foxtrotskarloey you can wear from straight away if you (or DH) likes. We usually suggest coming along with baby so you can get somethong your sure you like and will use but there's no reason not to go along to a session before baby's here and get a feel for a few.

@floppyspanielears deff not too old for wraps, I still wrap my 3.5yo on occasion, in terms of best there's so many variables I honestly couldn't say. Pop along to your local library or meet and give a few a try would be my suggestion

@eeeeek2 essentially loosen sling, lower baby to breast hight and latch on. Feeding in a sling is an extra hand not hands free and you should always support babies head with your hand not the sling. Always bring him up to the correct hight when finished. It can be tricky but your local library will be more than happy to give you some tips.

@londonloves I cant comment for all librarys but we welcome caregivers however they feed. That includes bottle breast sns cup or whatever. We can show you how to bottle feed safely in a sling too if you like. Whilst I obviously don't know every consultant or babywearing through my professional networks this seems to be widespread. I'm sorry if you've had a diff experience

Scootingthebreeze · 22/07/2018 11:33

Goosey - i use a mei tai still for my very heavy toddler who is way over the 33lb weight limit. There are mei tais and structured carrier versions (with the buckles) which hold higher weights

icclemunchy · 22/07/2018 11:39

@00100001 this will vary from library to library depending on their set up. Personally I am a volunteer as are everyone who helps out. We self fund our training and cpd. The money we take for hires goes straight back into the library for new slings/resources/insurance

@overmydeadbody like everything there are trends and fashions but tbh depending on what you buy the brand doesn't matter. We often caution against very cheap buckle carriers (especially those imported from China) because you cannot be sure they are safe or have safe buckles. A stretchy wrap is a stretchy wrap within reason. A 2way is more forgiving and slightly easier to use, they do tend to be more expensive but sling school now do a range that start at around £25. If you like your current ones keep using them 😊

@ferntwist you can use a stretchy before 8lb if you want to. I would however reccomend getting some help if baby is very small. Pm me if you like

@merename and @oneshitnight it's a bit like asking which jeans are best tbh. The best thing to do is go and try some and see what works

BertieBotts · 22/07/2018 11:41

Not OP either, just somebody who used slings/helped to run a sling meet for a while:

IME, stretchy wrap slings of any kind including cheap from amazon and home made are all exactly the same and there's no inherent value of Moby etc. However I've seen some cheap (often Chinese) ones on amazon recently which get reviews stating that they are too thin/short to be used for any carries so I'd watch out for those reviews on the super cheap ones or stick to ones with good reviews or which are made in the EU. I agree with PP that if you're looking at anything with buckles or stitching, stick to well known brands, because you REALLY don't want a stitch or buckle to fail. Be wary of fakes too - you can find this when a well known brand is suspiciously cheap. Sometimes checking their website for approved stockists is a good way to double check.

Stretchy wraps are really great for this reason as you can get them so cheaply and they suit almost all newborns. I always recommend people get a stretchy wrap before their baby is born and then look for other options once the baby has arrived, either when they are little if they want other options ASAP, or when they outgrow the stretchy wrap, it doesn't really matter.

I don't think there's any specific age you should take a newborn to a sling meet, just go when you feel comfortable.

Different techniques for breastfeeding in different slings. Personally I never managed it unfortunately. I did have a consult with a nice lady as part of training for the group who showed us how to get a good breastfeeding position in a ring sling but I didn't have a small baby at the time so couldn't try it out for real, and I've probably forgotten it now I'm pregnant. I do remember the ring sling being really unintuitive and hard to learn from pictures/videos but easier in person. Ask somebody IRL who has done it to show you how they do.

Newborns can be carried in a cradle hold or an upright hold in any carrier although structured carriers can be problematic for them as they are more designed for older babies, even with a newborn insert (the newborn inserts are also typically very hot which I worry about with tiny ones). You CAN use a non stretchy wrap for a newborn but it's harder to get the hang of. Stretchy wrap/caboo seems the easiest especially if you have no access to IRL support. Don't be intimidated by stretchy wraps, they look scary but they are so simple and easy.

For tall toddlers the Boba 4g is fantastic as it has a really tall body plus leg rests! If you're petite and particularly slim it's important to check the waistband size for SSCs because they need to be able to rest on your hips. If they don't tighten enough you'll have weight on your shoulders which can be really uncomfortable. There are some waistband comparisons online. OTOH if you/OH have a large waist you'll want to check the maximum waistband size and see if your chosen carrier has the option of an extender.

SSCs are a bit like jeans in that what suits one person won't necessarily be comfortable for another. Wraps and Mei Tais are much more customisable to any body shape but are harder to use.

We had plenty of bottle feeding mums at our sling meet and it wasn't an issue. Though there was a large crossover between LLL (breastfeeding group) crowd and sling meet crowd. I suppose unintentionally if you get the sense everyone else knows each other it might feel unwelcoming? I hope that wouldn't be the case, though.

olderthanyouthink · 22/07/2018 11:42

Are some slings better for winter vs summer? I'm due in November and would like to try a sling/carrier with my baby

How do you do change bag + sling? I imagine and rucksack would be best?

Whats the general opinion on the African style of carrying, put baby on back and tie a large piece of non stretch fabric around you both?

There's a sling library near me but it slightly scares me as I'm (probably 10 years) younger than I imagine the rest of the people are. Blush

icclemunchy · 22/07/2018 11:43

@fuckit2018 I have personally never used one but if you have a look for South East Slings I'm pretty sure she has some videos and is amazingly helpful if you drop her a pm

@gooseygoosey12345 plenty of options out there. Including for those of us who are on the smaller side 😊

@leemiller whist trying them is always ideal it's not essential 😊 the caboo is a brilliant choice olfor a newborn and very popular with our loaners. It's relatively simple to use the trick is making sure you do it tight enough

I think that answers pretty much everything. Sorry op if you come back and feel your toes have been stepped on

icclemunchy · 22/07/2018 11:47

@oldethanyouthink deff go along we honestly get all sorts! I had a 16yo and a gran in the same group on Friday 😊 you can get lighter options which are made for summer use but tbh j reason not to use them in the winter too. Most people do use a rucksack yes. The African style of carrying is amazing, I never quite got the hang of it so if your unsure I'd get someone really experienced to help as once baby is on your back you can't see them so need to be really really sure they are supported and their airway is protected

BertieBotts · 22/07/2018 12:01

Older I was 20 when DS1 was born! It really doesn't matter at all :)

Non stretchy wrap + back carry always looks amazing to me but again I think you need to learn in person - would scare me with a newborn. But absolutely possible to do it safely if you know how.

BertieBotts · 22/07/2018 12:03

Non stretch wrap in internet sling terms = woven wrap, BTW. If you want to search for info. Or for Mexican style search Rebozo.

Fuckedoffat48b · 22/07/2018 12:17

DH and I are expecting our first and went to a sling library session. They were really helpful but there did seem to be a strong preferance/presumption for stretchy wraps over carriers with straps/buckles etc. Why is this?

icclemunchy · 22/07/2018 12:23

@fuckedoff mostly because it can be harder to get a really really good fit with a buckle carrier. Most are designed to fit from birth to 2yrs and the fit at both extreams suffers because of that. A lot of them need inserts or boosters to make the baby for the panel size. A stretchy or caboo on the other hand moulds exactly to both wearer and baby. Tied correctly is supports even the smallest preemie correctly.

There are buckles that work well for a newborn but it's not as easy and very much depends on the size of your baby. It also limits the options avlible to you and not every buckle suits every caregiver. We usually recommend a caboo or stretchy for at least the first couple of months because the bigger they are the more choice you have

SnuggyBuggy · 22/07/2018 12:49

Thinking ahead I reckon my DD will outgrow her stretchy wrap at around 6 months or so. I'm considering what to use next, I'd like the option to back carry and it would be good if both me and DH could use it, what would people suggest?

ProseccoPoppy · 22/07/2018 13:15

@Floppyspanielears and @SnuggyBunny I use a connecta for a back carry for my nearly 3yo and a front carry for my 4mo (not at the same time, obviously). It’s been excellent. They do a toddler version (just a longer panel) but I haven’t needed it - my toddler fits fine in the baby one despite being on the 75th centile for height as at her age she doesn’t need the panel to go all the way up her back - she likes to have her arms out. The baby connecta is tested up to 24kg which is way more than you are ever likely to need to carry!

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BertieBotts · 22/07/2018 14:25

Snuggy, options for back carries for older babies:

Soft Structured Carrier aka buckle carrier. These are popular as easy to use and supportive but may suit different people differently so worth trying out in person if you can.

Woven wrap - look beautiful but steep learning curve and some men find them a bit too fussy. Very versatile though and highly supportive.

Me I Tai - similar to buckle carrier, except you tie it, so more universal.

Ring sling- extremely easy and quick to use but can strain due to one shoulder only. I like to use them in the house but not so much for out and about.

Framed backpack/hiking carrier - come in a metal or plastic frame, can buy in outdoor shops. Some double as a portable highchair. I don't think these are as comfy as a fabric carrier but some people prefer them. They are bulky to store when not in use.

BertieBotts · 22/07/2018 14:27

I think newborn preference for stretchy wraps is that they are cheap, easy to use, difficult to get wrong, and fit everyone. But they don't last very long.

Most buckle carriers have very poor fit for totally new newborns and are better from 4m+.

Sunshiness · 22/07/2018 19:43

Thank you icclemunchy. Its a fairly large 9 months old, 10kg?

SnuggyBuggy · 22/07/2018 20:25

Thanks for the responses, its given me some things to research and we will try to get to a meet

icclemunchy · 23/07/2018 09:54

@sunshines that's a good size you'll have a massive range you can choose from. I'd deff try some at a library though. The jeans analogy is great because a tula looks pretty simlar to a izmi for eg. But the izmi has no real padding whereas the tula has a still waistband and very padded shoulders. Which one you'll like you won't know till you try with your own baby

olderthanyouthink · 23/07/2018 12:01

@icclemunchy & @BertieBotts thanks, I know it doesn't matter that I'm fairly young but I'm not that enthusiastic about dealing with the judgy people. It's on a weekday anyway so unless I'm off work already I think I might not go until I go on Maternity leave.

I had a neighbour and another friends wife who carried their kids the African way, not sure I'm brave enough to try it with a little baby though.

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BertieBotts · 02/08/2018 18:24

Any Foxtrot - they are really much of a muchness. If you're buying an unbranded one on amazon, check the reviews in case they are terrible, but honestly, you can't really go wrong. I just cut up a piece of fabric for mine and used that constantly when DS was little.

older honestly I did not encounter any judginess at all :) But yeah wait until you're on mat leave, not worth taking time off work to go IME. The African style/woven wrap back carry defo requires some real world instruction IMO - it's not something you'd want to get wrong.

WooYa · 02/08/2018 19:52

I've got a 'cuddle bug' off amazon. It's a great stretchy sling. DS loves
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00OJVNSFA/ref=mpssa113aa_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1533235927&sr=8-3&keywords=cuddlebug+baby+wrap&dpPl=1&dpID=51I9Q7fd64L&ref=plSrch

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