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Celebrity Nanny here

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AnotherCareerThread · 03/07/2018 20:41

Noticed the trend of career threads recently so thought I'd join in, always get loads of questions when my job comes up on here.

I'm a Nanny/Governess specialising in High Net Worth/ViP families - happy to answer any questions Smile

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Bowerbird5 · 03/07/2018 23:02

This has been a really interesting thread. I have considered nannying before but never taken the plunge apart from occasional evening for SS. Do you ever come across more mature nannies? I 'm considering it again at the moment.

AndromedaPerseus · 03/07/2018 23:04

How do the children who are mostly brought up by a succession of nannies relate to their parents? Do they show more attachment to the Nannies?

AnotherCareerThread · 03/07/2018 23:05

On my laptop now, will be far less spelling errors!

Do any of the children get upset that their parents are absent so often?

Not in my experience. But thats because its not a sudden change, most have had nannies from birth.

But she would like to....and I guess I just don't get that. Everyone deserves a level of privacy.

Genuine question, what have I said that has breached anyone's privacy when even the person in question would not recognise they are being described? And I'm not even describing one particular person in detail, more generalised attitudes with examples.

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biscuitmillionaire · 03/07/2018 23:10

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Have you met any adults who were brought up by a constant series of nannies? What do they say about their childhoods and their relationship with their parents?
It seems odd to me to have children and then hardly ever see them.

Extremely common in much of Asia; not just the wealthy but most ordinary middle class families have 'staff' including a domestic worker who looks after the children.

Maybe there are whole countries full of adults with attachment difficulties as a result of this? I think it must affect you emotionally.

GreenTeaPleaseSir · 03/07/2018 23:14

Interesting thread Smile

GlitteryFluff · 03/07/2018 23:16

I don't have a question but this is very interesting. Thanks for taking the time to answer OP.
I'm really enjoying all the AMA threads that keep popping up.

EachandEveryone · 03/07/2018 23:17

Are you live-in?

blueshoes · 03/07/2018 23:20

As you are so intertwined with the family, have you had a situation where you knew (accidentally) that one parent was having an affair and had to cover for that parent against the other?

HollowTalk · 03/07/2018 23:20

Just an aside, @AssassinatedBeauty - I did controlled crying with my son (second child) when he was four or five months old. He was an extremely clingy child, as was my first child. I had a visit from the health visitor and I told her that I was hallucinating because I was so tired. I was having to drive, but felt unsafe. She recommended controlled crying and I was very, very against it. I remember she said she'd come back in a week and I could stop it if it hadn't worked then.

The first night I did it, my husband went in every five minutes. My daughter (aged nearly 3) was sharing a bedroom with my son. She ignored him yelling. He yelled for an hour then went to sleep. The next night he yelled for 40 minutes, then went to sleep. The next night he didn't cry at all and was quite happy in his cot.

I hadn't wanted to do controlled crying at all. I was a very hands-on mum who breastfed until they were 18 months and I thought I would really, really struggle. But that 1 hour 40 minutes of yelling meant that we never had a problem with sleeping again. He slept well. I was able to sleep well and to be a better mum. And not crash the car or fall down the stairs with exhaustion, which is what I'd worried most about.

I agree 6 weeks is far too young, but I wanted to do it before he was too old to make himself sit up or stand up.

AnotherCareerThread · 03/07/2018 23:22

Are the children of the middle eastern families spoilt and rude?
It would be unfair of me to make such a generalised statement. One Saudi family i worked for told me that it was Middle Eastern culture to "keep children as children for as long as possible" which was achieved by doing everything for them. My experience in the Middle East was this was more the attitude than it is in the West, its not my place to say if this is right or wrong, it wouldn't be my chosen approach however.

What happens if a family decide to fire you on a whim? How much notice do you have to leave and how easy is it to find the next job? ESP if they don’t give good references.
This happens A LOT. I make sure I have a concrete contract which stipulates a months notice. 9 times out of ten I'm simply paid the notice in lieu. Last job I had 4 days to go (because they were travelling). Got a great reference though. I've never been out of work for longer than 3 weeks, and I'm really picky about jobs now. Mostly I get jobs through word of mouth, I've got a lot of experience, am the "right age" and am English - means I'm snapped up quick!
Bad references don't really exist, its possible to get no reference and the turnover is so high that you have several other references making up for it.

What’s a typical day as a vip nanny like (ok I get that is a hard question!) Get up, take a shower with champagne, eat cavier for breakfast and smoke a cuban cigar... Grin No typical day really. Lots and lots (and lots and lots) of travel. I try and make the days as structured as possible for the kids sake, meals at the same time, good nighttime routine, an hour outside activity, a craft activity, a social activity etc - but it massively depends on the family and schedule.

If your day finishes at say 6 do you get to just walk out at 6 or do they expect you to hang around? Hahahahaha... Please find me a job that finishes at 6! Or one that finishes when it says it will. PLEASE!

What were the best family you worked for like? Respectful. They recognise I'm there to do a job and that I need time to myself too. They want to spend time with their children and are genuinely interested in their needs and wants as individuals, rather than how they perceive them.

What is the average age of your charges and how many charges in a family have you had at a time? All ages. Mostly toddlers recently, though next job is a young baby. Typically there is 1 nanny per child at least, last job was 9 nannies for 4 kids (rota nannies). I have looked after several dozen children at once before. BIG playdates are a thing in the Middle East especially.

Do you ever stay in touch with families after you've moved on? Some but not many. The children are quite young and tend to forget and I feel it would be confusing if I kept popping up. I'm not sure it would benefit them in anyway and as much as I'd love to see them to see how they've grown, I think that'd be more to my gain than theirs.

Do you personally recommend controlled crying for babies under 6 months? Do you try any other methods first or is it a question of doing what your employer tells you? I KNEW the controlled crying question would ruffle feathers. For a start, don't confuse controlled crying with Cry It Out, completely different. I advocate allowing a child to whine (not scream - if they are obviously distressed its completely different) for 5 minutes before going in and soothing them, without picking them up. Continue this until they sleep. If they get distressed, pick them up. Never before 6 weeks, and its dependant on the baby and their temperament as to when to start. This isn't a case of leaving them to scream AT ALL, but instead to allow them to whinge if needed. Obviously everyone here knows the difference between whining and distressed crying. I'd never let a distressed child scream.

I will do what the employer tells me as default unless I strongly disagree - in which case we will discuss it and if I'm still uncomfortable, I guess I'd leave, but its never come to this.

I don't want this to sound as goady as it probably does but what sets you apart from the 'normal' £600 a week nannies to justify you being paid so much? Not goady at all and truthfully - absolutely nothing. But at £600 a week I'd expect the job to be "normal" and to have set hours and for me to have a life outside work. But the skills involved? Same. Except I guess being able to put up with more?

Have you met any adults who were brought up by a constant series of nannies? What do they say about their childhoods and their relationship with their parents? No, not really. But I'm from a "working class" background so most of my peers have had "normal" upbringings.

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StorminaBcup · 03/07/2018 23:29

Why is the turnover of nannies so high?

I hope I haven't missed this if you've already answered!

Danceintherain2018 · 03/07/2018 23:29

This is really interesting :)

Do you do school runs or are they mostly home schooled?

aliasjoey · 03/07/2018 23:33

Why would a job advert stipulate that you must be under 35?

If you have nannied for middle-eastern families do the boys treat you with disrespect even from a young age?

AnotherCareerThread · 03/07/2018 23:38

How many days a week did you work?

5 or 6 - though 24/7 on occasion.

I'd love to know why people don't last more than 6 months? You'd think the one thing money could buy would be consistency which is ultimately what you would want from childcare!

You'd think but most jobs I've left through the family's choice - either they're moving, they want a different type of nanny, they're trying something else or whatever. I would consider consistency number one priority but there you go.

In that if you can only spend an hour a day with your child you don't want to have someone there permanently doing "your" job? My experience has been that those spending an hour a day with their kids do so by choice.

Seriously what do they do all day!! One of many nannies still do a LOT. Quite a bit is made up tasks that the parents come up with to fill the time. Cleaning the bathroom from top to bottom every day. Alphabetising everything. Coming up with endless schedules. I was Head Nanny in my last role so part of the job was managing the other nannies and their rotas etc.

What's the one perk that you have as a "rich" nanny (ie parents with unlimited spending power) that you didn't have as a poor nanny. First class flights! Saunas in the house! Chefs! Chauffeurs! Membership to fancy children's clubs.

Are there better enrichment activities you could go to or is the 50p sessions in the local Church Hall just as good? Its a mixture but a lot of HNW families are weirdly tight so I have done a LOT of free activities with the kids or penny pinching style activities at home. I was told in my last role that it was forbidden to spend more than £1 on craft materials or activities for the kids as it was a waste of money, and then she literally goes and buys a £500 jacket for the 1 year old [shrug]

Tell me about where you could go during the day with your charge? In London; sealife centre, madame tussauds, pottery classes, the wheel, purple dragon, swimming classes, the museums, bloody HARRODS every fucking day...

Also, please write a book! (If anyone could recommend one please let me know!) I've thought about it but never found the time. The Nanny Diaries is entertaining enough, a bit romcom, and theres a nanny book written by an Aussie Nanny that was cripplingly badly written but entertaining enough.

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AnotherCareerThread · 03/07/2018 23:43

Do you ever find any of the children too difficult? Only ever the parents. I can deal with any child and any behavioural issues so long as I'm not undermined by the parents, but if the parents will not set boundaries, I can do nothing.
I did a trial a few weeks ago were the 5 year old spat on me. I left because his mother was a psychopath, the 5 year old I could handle, a mother who refuses to allow any form of discipline or routine on her children (whilst ignoring them herself) i can not handle. That family offered me A LOT of money, a car, reduced hours and a 2 bed apartment and I still said no. I could say A LOT about them as they are VERY famous and I didn't sign a disclosure for my trial but that wouldn't be fair.

I’ve worked as a nanny for wealthy families before. Most would want a baby sleeping through the night between 6 and 12 weeks and would pay a maternity nanny to achieve this. Yes yes, very very true. Maternity nurses are typically hired for the first 3 months pretty much solely for the sleep training.

Did you ever sign a non-disclosure? Yes : )

Do you ever stay in touch with families you have been close to and meet up with them/see the kids again, or do you accept that when you leave a job you will never see the kids again? Generally don't see them again, with such short contracts it would just be unfairly emotional for the children in most cases.

Do you ever secretly long to befriend the particularly lonely or unhappy mothers and liberate them from the chains of their material/marital enslavement? Or do you think the unhappy ones don't realise fully just how unhappy they are?

Oh God, absolutely. There was one woman who was just the nicest lady (if a bit spoilt) but utterly ruled by her husband. She had zero hobbies and her whole life was spent facilitating his wants and needs. She is so intelligent but never ever got to do anything.

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hmmwhatatodo · 03/07/2018 23:47

Thank you for answering. Ok, so I get that it’s unlikely you would finish at 6 but that was just as example. Do you not generally have a finish time or are you expected to do things with the children even though the parents are around and still look after the children literally until they fall asleep? Does there come a time when you really want to just stop but you have to hang around waiting to be dismissed for the night?

InTheRoseGarden · 03/07/2018 23:50

How many children do you want and will you be a SAHM (if not, what type of childcare will you use)?

AnotherCareerThread · 03/07/2018 23:53

How do you flush out your nose with salt water Oh God, don't. I had to do it to the baby daily too. So mean and unnecessary.

Do you ever come across more mature nannies? Yes absolutely. Theres definitely a niche for that and if you have teaching experience even more so. PM me and I'll send you some agency details. x

How do the children who are mostly brought up by a succession of nannies relate to their parents? Do they show more attachment to the Nannies?

Some kiddies seem okay with their parents, I've had a few children really latch on to me. One girl got very very attached very very quickly, she was so desperate for affection as her family gave her none. I wished I could just take her with me and love her Sad I've had a lot of kids call me Mum, sometimes I'm not sure its accidental.

Are you live-in? Yes, though a lot of the time I'm given my own apartment either on the property or in the town/city.

As you are so intertwined with the family, have you had a situation where you knew (accidentally) that one parent was having an affair and had to cover for that parent against the other? No, I try to be as distant from the parents as I reasonably can be. Their lives are their concerns, I'm there for the babies. I have no idea what I'd do in that scenario - I certainly wouldn't cover for a parent though!

Why is the turnover of nannies so high? sometimes difficult work circumstances, sometimes families changing their minds a lot!

Do you do school runs or are they mostly home schooled?
All the kids that are school aged have gone to school and yes, I did the school runs. I teach them at home also. Usually to the British Curriculum.

Why would a job advert stipulate that you must be under 35?
Because they want a young nanny, apparently we have "more energy". Other requirements have been stipulating my weight, my ethnicity, my accent, my hairstyle, my skin colour and that I must not get pregnant or have a relationship. I'm aware this is not legal.

If you have nannied for middle-eastern families do the boys treat you with disrespect even from a young age? Some have tried. I will not allow any member of staff or any adult (or child for that matter) be treated with disrespect regardless of their gender, age or ethnicity. If the parents do not support me with this, I will leave. See above the 5 year old that spat at me, that was in the Middle East.

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AssassinatedBeauty · 03/07/2018 23:54

"I had to do it to the baby daily too. So mean and unnecessary. "

Why did you do it then? That's insane.

AnotherCareerThread · 03/07/2018 23:56

Do you not generally have a finish time or are you expected to do things with the children even though the parents are around and still look after the children literally until they fall asleep?
Yes but to finish at the finish time is RARE. Typically you leave when the kids are asleep or if there is a night nanny, when she takes over. My last job I had the baby monitors for all 3 kids throughout the nights.

Does there come a time when you really want to just stop but you have to hang around waiting to be dismissed for the night? Yes, most days really. It's very very tiring as you have to be "on" all day, there's no relaxing or letting it slip, and quite often you just want to go to sleep (all I do on my days off).

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AnotherCareerThread · 03/07/2018 23:57

"I had to do it to the baby daily too. So mean and unnecessary."

Why did you do it then? That's insane.

I absolutely wouldn't now, but I am much much more confident, i found the Mum very intimidating at the time, I was a fair bit younger and less experienced than I am now.

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AnotherCareerThread · 03/07/2018 23:59

How many children do you want and will you be a SAHM (if not, what type of childcare will you use)?

I would like one, and I would like to adopt him/her. I have no interest (at the moment!) of having a biological child, too many kids out there needing a home. (This is NOT a judgement, just a personal preference).

If money were no object, I'd probably be a WAHM and use nursery 3 or 4 half days a week. I have a small business that would keep me busy. I've seen enough bad nannies to find the idea of using one off putting (scary I know).

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SukiPutTheEarlGreyOn · 04/07/2018 00:07

Do you form friendships with nannies when you work with in a team or is there any rivalry?

Do contracts forbid romantic relationships with staff or family friends? If so do most nannies keep to these stipulations?

FoodGloriousFud · 04/07/2018 00:08

@Perfectly1mperfect Thought you were going?! Bore off.

CheekyCapsicum · 04/07/2018 00:12

My friend's daughter is a PA to a VERY famous person in the UK, for a salary of over £300 grand per annum. First class flights, best rooms in the best hotels. Free designer clothing, rubbing shoulders with the rich and famous. But she feels 'owned' and can't continue for much longer.

Have you ever felt 'owned' to that extent?