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Children's social worker AMA?

86 replies

Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 16:17

If you like Grin

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tigerroundfortea · 02/07/2018 18:40

How anonymous is an anonymous report. Do you find out who has made the reports in malicious cases, can you see phone numbers, ip addresses and email addresses ect. And secondly if you have more information about an informant than what is given to the parent, in cases where allegations are false can't these people be prosecuted for wasting your time and resources? I've never heard of this before but always wondered

freecoffeeforyou · 02/07/2018 18:41

@tigerroundfortea I was told they would prosecute if the same person was found to be making allegations against myself and my family.

Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 18:51

Burrito yes it was difficult. I'm a lone parent and I work full time. All the local authorities I've worked for have been quite flexible though it's fine

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Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 18:52

Alison I don't think any of my clients are cunts. The things you lidt are significant harm.

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Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 18:52

Tiger I don't know honest answer

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AvocadosBeforeMortgages · 02/07/2018 18:56

@whatsmyname Have you looked at the Frontline scheme?

CocoDeMoll · 02/07/2018 18:57

Mumsnet seems to think a lot of not ideal, but not awful parenting warrrnts full SS involvement. How do feel about mn’s idea of when SS should be involved?

BurritoSquad · 02/07/2018 18:57

Thanks @Queenofthedrivensnow . I have a dh but we have 4 young children

WakeUpFromYourDreamAndScream · 02/07/2018 18:58

Have you ever had a child die while on your caseload? I often think of the social workers in the Baby P case who gave Peter back to his mother despite knowing there was abuse. How does something like that happen?

grasspigeons · 02/07/2018 18:58

How do you think schools and social services could work better together. At school we feel things we report aren't acted on - I'm sure social services find schools do or don't do something they should. What would help

Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 19:03

Coco I think it's best to report there may be a bigger picture.

What I will say is that mn leans toward reporting to nspcc instead as somehow a more worthy action. This is really unhelpful please report direct as we can see the file if it's an open case and ask specific questions related to context. I can give examples if this doesn't make sense.

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Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 19:03

Wakeup - I can't share information like that sorry

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Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 19:05

Grass it's such a mixed bag. Some schools are very glued up I can't fault them. Some are shocking it seems to be down to cultural norms and specific staff members when it falls down. Lots of teacher and slt are incredible though

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Ginger1982 · 02/07/2018 19:07

Do you think SW are damned if they do something and damned if they do nothing?

pandamodium · 02/07/2018 19:08

Do you keep a record of reports and can you tell if they are coming from the same phone or area?

For example one person making the same report every week anonymously:

Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 19:17

Ginger - no I really don't think that. I and my colleagues have removed children from unimaginable abuse. I won't be giving examples though.

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Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 19:18

Panda I wish i could tell you but I work in effectively the court service not the initial enquiry department

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whatsmynametoday · 02/07/2018 19:44

@AvocadosBeforeMortgages yes, doesn't operate in my area. Have looked at the step into (or up, whatever it is) social work but they're not taking anyone on.

mooey89 · 02/07/2018 19:49

I am an adults social worker.

A) do you know what I do
B) do you think I do any work?

(One of our team on the fast track programme just did a placement in CSC and overheard ‘don’t bother going to adults, they don’t do anything, just look at their calendars Shock’)

Queenofthedrivensnow · 02/07/2018 20:35

Mooey - bit different for me because my bff I met at uni is in adults so we have always told each other all about the different services. I couldn't manage adults though I couldn't cope with working with older people I would find it so difficult I don't know how you and my bestie and my sister do it

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pandamodium · 02/07/2018 22:55

Queen thanks anyway Smile I work alongside adult SW, neither seem like an easy one. I certainly couldn't do it. Good luck with it.

littlemisscomper · 02/07/2018 23:03

If a person wants to foster but can't afford their own home (currently living with parents) would they get any sort of financial help towards rent in order to be able to set up independently and become a foster parent?

KennDodd · 02/07/2018 23:11

No questions, just wanted to say thank you for doing such a difficult job.

Marryoneorbecomeone · 02/07/2018 23:15

When you have seen and dealt with terrible things, how do you handle yourself? Remain professional? And not have giant trauma and nightmares?

ILikeyourHairyHands · 02/07/2018 23:27

Hi Queen

I once had an erroneous report made against me (I wouldn't say malicious because I think it came from a good, if misguided place), I have a daughter with ASD and the report actually led me to hook up with an excellent social worker and MAT and TAF and really finally got the the help I needed for my DD. Everyone I worked with during the process was exemplary and I made some really strong relationships with the professionals during the process. I was deemed 'An excellent mother who works exceptionally well with all agencies and who takes extraordinary steps to ensure the wellbeing and best course of action for her daughter' by the ed psych I worked with. All was going well, DD was permanently excluded from school at the age of six (before diagnosis), and with the help of the professionals I worked with, was a pupil at a PRU for a year with gradual integration back into mainstream, where she's now doing brilliantly with an EHCP and full-time TA.

However, whilst she was at the PRU she had a bad day and lashed out against her teacher (who she loved very much), obvious three day exclusion and reintegration interview, during which, as is her way she became very defensive and when her teacher challenged her about her physical attack on him, retorted with, 'Well my Dad hits me really hard all the time' (this is simply not true but I knew it would be reported as a safeguarding issue in such a setting).

As I was expecting, I received a call the next day from a CP SW I hadn't dealt with before, asking me to come in for a chat. Which I did. And was immediately treated as though I was a child-abusing criminal.

She asked me about the allegations, and I told her I'd been expecting a call due to the conversation and gave her a brief precis of the situation, the professionals I'd worked with and DDs current situation. But she was having NONE of it, I was told my word meant nothing, that children are listened to and that my husband and I were to attend for another interview the next day. Also that my children were currently being visited by CP SW at school, pulled out of their lessons and interviewed.

The children told me that night that people had come to speak to them, but I asked them nothing about what had occcured during the conversations as I didn't want to be seen to be predjudicing them in any way.

At the meeting the next day with me and my husband it was explicitly stated that my, my husband's and my DC's accounts all tallied and there was no case to answer, however my husband and I were asked to sign an agreement that we would not physically punish our children, which I refused to do,

A) Because I saw that as a tacit admission of guilt that something had happened, which would remain on file.

B) Because even though I (or my husband) resolutely do not use physical punishment it's not illegal.

C) In the past I have at times had to use a pressure-point grip on DDs wrist to make her stop doing something injurious to herself or others, so have had to use physical intervention to prevent serious consequences.

At which point this particular SW 'lost her shit' at me (to use the venacular), she threatened me with the police, as an allegation had been made, with a report to her superior for a Child Protection Plan, she kept referring to my husband as 'him'.

I stayed calm, held my ground, thanked her for her time but told her I would not be signing anything and if she wished to take it any further, she was welcome. As we left the room she SHOUTED 'Goodbye then' and slammed the fucking door!

Now, even as a sharp elbowed middle-class woman I was shaken by the experience and I do wonder how those who are perceived to be lower in the pecking order are treated and if there is a level of authorative coersion rather than actual assistance occurring sometimes.

Sorry for the essay, it was a profoundly affecting experience for me that made me seriously consider how difficult it must be to navigate the whole area of CP, both as a parent who sometimes lacks the skills to do so and a professional who is also sometimes lacking.

Not sure what my question is really.

Do you have any thoughts on my experience and how interactions could be improved, in circumstances where people may not be;

A) On a level communicatively

B) Distrustful of each other.

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